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How Far Back Can We Go? Third Edition! Ended At 1487 Waiting On 1486

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Inching closer to the 16th century and then to the point reached by the two previous editions.
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yeah AD 1491 is a real killer.
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yeah AD 1491 is a real killer.


I'm guessing this thread will get stuck long before 1491. After 1600, I become mostly a spectator, and can't help much to move this thread along.

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Spain -- 1607 8 maravedis:

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I'm guessing this thread will get stuck long before 1491.
We got there twice already. I see no reason why we cannot get there a third time. Sure, it may take a while.
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France -- 1606 Double Tournois:

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Nothing more from me until 1604
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Replay, to get us going....
1605
counter token
obv. crowned arms of the Spanish Habsburgs in the chain of the order of the golden fleece.
*CALCuli.RATIionum.FINANCIARVM
counter of the chamber of accounts of finance
mint: Antwerp
rev: Victoria (attribute: palm branch) standing right, offering a key (the key to close the temple of Janus, which symbolises peace) to Pax (attribute: olive branch), walking left.
Centre background: a burning fire. In the exergue 1605. .PAX.AVT VICTORI A CRESCAT"
May (either) peace or Victory increase.
In 1605, both the Habsburgs and the Republic were war-weary, but neither trusted the other enough for serious peace negotiations. The counter refers to a land campaign under Spinola, who had already taken Lochem, Groenlo and Rijnberk and was marching towards Oldenzaal, which he would take in 1605. He was stopped only in 1606 at the battle of Berkumerbrug.
Meanwhile, the fleet of the Republic dealt a punishing blow to the Spanish fleet in the battle of Gibraltar. These events indeed convinced both parties that neither could win. Negotiations ended up in 1609 in a truce only, which held for 12 years. Peace had to wait until 1648.
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In good condition, it should look like this (not mine):
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Spain -- 1604 4 maravedis:

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Spain -- 1603 2 maravedis:

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How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Third-Edition!-Ended-At-1487-Waiting-On-1486

nothing more from me until 1600
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We had several from 1603 last time. I wonder if any more will show before 1602.
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from me nothing from 1602
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Here is my 1602, An Elizabeth I Shilling mm 2.

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Yes, it is nice, but wasn't the '2' mark used in 1602 and 1603?
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I am not sure, Spink lists it as 1602, though I could be wrong.
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