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1925 P "Billy Idol" ? Wheat

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. Just had to show this die crack off. Makes me laugh Every time..rock on Abe ...rock on.

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Cool.
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So, I wonder if it's worth any... "Mony Mony"

Someone had to do it.
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So, I wonder if it's worth any... "Mony Mony"

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 Posted 01/21/2015  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JerryKnightTwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not the slightest clue. Just thought it was humorous.. so I put it up to hear what others thought of it..I guess if I put an autograph of Billy Idol with it.then it would be worth at least a 1ยข haha
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Looks like a die crack along the hair area that cause this look?
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I have another one real similar... only the other one looks like a military style haircut for Abe. Haven't seen another ..but I'm sure they are out there.
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Taking another look again, I think I'm seeing a struck through wire/thread coin. Could you take an image out of the 2X2? That would be a lot more helpful. Make the coin in the 800 to 1000 pixel image width. That will show us a lot more. (The glare in the first image block the line in front of the face.)
Here is what a struck through wire might look like:
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Here is one with the wire still in it:
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Struck through thread:
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Is this any better..
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Yes. It looks like it may have been caused by a struck through thread. The left side of the obverse looks very rough. Not sure what could have done that to your coin?
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It looks almost like a lam error on the left. Now I'm curious...as to the origin .... struck through or die crack ..or other perhaps . I am not very knowledgeable in collecting as of yet and will need help to figure this one out...least I'm in the right place... lots of help here.
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A die crack is an area on the die that is broken away. When an area is void on the the die, then it is raised on the coins it strikes, So a die crack is raised, not incuse.
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Roughness on a planchet can be few things. Rust on the die, erosion on the surface of the coin, acid applied to surface, grease and grime on coin, environmental issues (found outdoors) or an accumulation of something on the coin. I'm just not sure what happened to your coin?
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Here is the reverse...lam error? Improper die mix? I'm stumped.that why I said lamination error on the obverse

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This makes me wonder if something was let set like acid on the surface of the coin. Note how the metal was eaten away from the coin. Removing some of the surface in certain areas. Laminations usually run in a straight line across the surface of a coin.
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Note how the edges are visible. when this comes off you can usually see a weakness of the design under the peel that is coming off.
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On your coin this looks the area in question looks like a localized drop or two of something on the coin? So the surface is altered. Which ruins the value of the coin. Bummer. Thanks for the reverse image. It helped me figure out what happened to your coin.

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Darn it ....lol no problem I thought that might help with the mystery. The surface is actually very shiny and smooth to the touch...the reverse is a completely different texture than the obverse ..don't know if that is odd or not but
....once again thank you for your help."today's lesson ----Lamination errors". Haha ....I have 4. Lbs of wheats in front of me ....bout to dive in.
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