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1857-S Seated Quarter

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Would like to hear your opinions about this '57-S Seated quarter.

It is ex Norweb Sale 1988. They had two specimens of this date/mm. This one was described in the catalogue as EF40.

Do you think it has been cleaned?
It was not described as such, but would like to hear your opinions.


Thank you,

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 Posted 01/21/2015  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the talons, hair and stars showing virtually full detail, I'm calling EF40 a bit conservative for this one.

Seated coinage ages differently than other issues; one must learn new routines for evaluating color and surface originality because Seated stuff (like the later Barber issues) tones darker and apparently more irregularly than other issues. With that in mind, if this one was cleaned it was a very long time ago and the result is perfectly market-acceptable.
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XF45, and looks cleaned to me. That's one BIG S

Maybe they are understating the grade a bit to make up for 'details.'
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EF-45, old cleaning, very light though.
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XF-40 due to the old cleaning.
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XF-45 to AU50 grade wise

This is an excellent specimen of a tough Seated quarter Germanicvs, thanks for sharing.

-MV
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Nice key date. I agree with MeadowviewCollector on the grade, either XF-45 or AU-50. Lightly cleaned long ago but I don't think that will stop it getting a problem free grade.
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wonderful looking Seated quarter.
thanks for sharing
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I think obverse looks 45 and reverse looks 55, I'll say AU 50. Nice coin
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Razor sharp detail but cleaned. AU-55 details
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EF+ old cleaning still nice coin
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I'd venture EF45+ with a very light old cleaning. John Ford Jr. once said he only considered a coin cleaned if it looked cleaned anything else is conservation, I tend to agree with him, the potential old cleaning really doesn't apply on coins like this one.
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AU details/cleaned.

Sharp coin still!
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It just occurred to me that I never thanked you guys for your opinions about this coin. So thanks, all!
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It is ex Norweb Sale 1988. They had two specimens of this date/mm. This one was described in the catalogue as EF40.

I would hope you have the auction documentation that shows it's provenance from the Norweb sale, was it from Norweb's collection directly, or just an add in consignment? Do you know? I wonder if you could get this in a TPG slab with a label stating Ex-Norweb that alone would surely add value to the coin's value.

Though from all the cool coins you've posted over the past year or so, I'd venture that a label that states Ex-GERMANICVS Coll. would also be pretty cool , there are a few Federal era coins you've posted I'd surely love to have in my collection.
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I agree with fayette1800. XF45 OBV. AU55 REV. net it at AU50. If it was cleaned it was a while ago and was not done maliciously. Looks perfectly market acceptable. Another winner
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