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One50 Valued Member United States 361 Posts	Posted 01/21/2015 9:54 pm I'm working on a short raw set of AU/MS coins all denominations and PDS from 1941 - 1945. I'm studying Jeffersons now and purchased a 1940 BU, that's all my local coin dealer had at the time, to study and look at. My question is this: When someone says "Full Steps" What exactly does that mean? 5? 6? Just the center set of steps? or all 3 sets of steps? Can you have a higher grade without full steps? Can you have a lower grade with full steps? Thanks Report this Post to the Staff

kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 01/21/2015 10:17 pm I have a complete set of War Nickels with Full Steps all slabbed. Quote: Just the center set of steps? Yes. Quote: My question is this: When someone says "Full Steps" What exactly does that mean? At least 5 steps are complete all the way across. PCGS does not differentiate between 5 and 6 full steps. NGC DOES differentiate. If even one step is interrupted by a weak strike, the coin is NOT full steps. AND If even one step is interrupted by damage, the coin is NOT full steps. Quote: Can you have a higher grade without full steps? Yes. Quote: Can you have a lower grade with full steps? Yes. My set ranges from MS-64 to MS-66. Report this Post to the Staff
edweather Pillar of the Community United States 7375 Posts	Posted 01/21/2015 10:46 pm http://varietynickels.com/pages/jef...ll-steps.php Oh yea...... Edited by edweather 01/21/2015 10:54 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 01/21/2015 10:53 pm Here's a good guide to get started: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/th...cally.49827/ Personally, I fail to see why a coin with 6 full steps is worth 5-10 times as much as a coin with a better strike overall, but weaker steps. Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 07:53 am Full steps , full split bands , full head , full hand. these command a much higher price. Report this Post to the Staff
mfhorn Pillar of the Community United States 959 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 09:23 am And everyone has their own priorities. For me....the best that I can afford. Report this Post to the Staff
ratio411 Pillar of the Community United States 1208 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 12:00 pm I dunno.... I know the whole world is impressed with "Full Steps"... I must be weird, because I love my Jeffersons, but don't care one bit what the steps look like under a loupe. My coins look great in the album, and that is all that matters to me. I have seen lots of "FS" Jeffersons that have terrible eye appeal and would look lesser than the coins in my album, FS or not. Over-rated IMO. Report this Post to the Staff
Night Hawk Valued Member United States 300 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 1:17 pm I just started collecting Jeffersons a while ago and while I have a few FS coins, I'm more concerned with overall strike and how it looks. If I can snag a FS coin for the same price as a non FS I'll take it, if not I'm not to worried about it.... Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 1:24 pm The fact that some do not see it as a high priority doesn't change the fact that most do. Quality of strike is a fundamental facet of grading across all issues and Full Step Jeffersons are far rarer than FSB Mercs for instance. People won't argue a 10x value jump for a 1945-P FSB Merc. Report this Post to the Staff
smokeriderdon Pillar of the Community United States 3755 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 8:13 pm As Dave said, FS Jeffs are not so easy to come by. And if you want one with an overall good strike, nice eye appeal AND FS... yeah, you will pay. Oh yes, you will pay. Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 8:27 pm I agree with ratio411's opinion regarding eye appeal as the ultimate, and Jeffs (like their predecessor Buffs) can still look fabulous with a poor strike. Doesn't change the typical numismatic obsession with incremental improvement, just proves that some are less susceptible to it than others. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15395 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 8:51 pm I'm with Kanga on this topic ... agree with the definitions of Jefferson FS. Well stated. Fully concur as well with ratio411 vision of eye appeal ... stated in my words ... the individual collector must decide what appeals to them. That said ... believe most of us can agree there is a lovely and desired state in all coins ... in this case Jefferson nickels .. where eye appeal and strong strike intersect. I'm another collector who has a complete Jefferson war set ... PCGS certified and all FS with lovely eye appeal. Have not paid attention to it in years ... but all MS66FS/MS67FS. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
jdmern Pillar of the Community United States 1949 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 9:00 pm I believe the War Nickels are easier to obtain with FS because of the 40% silver alloy being softer than nickel, correct? Boardwalk Numismatics http://stores.ebay.com/jdmern/ https://boardwalknumismatics.com Report this Post to the Staff
One50 Valued Member United States 361 Posts	Posted 01/22/2015 9:15 pm Thanks all for your input. edweather and Finn235, great links, thank you too. Everyone's comments seem to resonate across the coin collecting spectrum. Eye appeal Subjective Price Wants All key words that go beyond Jeffersons and make up an individuals collecting preference. Cool Edited by One50 01/22/2015 9:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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