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1843-D $2.50 Liberty Head Gold

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PCGS graded this one (a while ago now) at XF 45! It sounds like the majority were a bit higher than that. So I should probably consider sending this one in again, right? Would I choose a "Regrade" or a "Reconsideration"? It sounds like Reconsideration is more expensive and I probably would want the coin in a newer style slab anyway, right? I don't really understand the advantages of Reconsideration over Regrade. Thanks for the help!
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Please post the 1855 type 2 dollar next.


That one is ungraded/unslabbed. I will certainly post pics soon but I'm waiting for some lights to arrive, and I want to handle the unslabbed coins as little as possible. Actually for that coin, it may make sense to send it directly in for grading without even handling it, since I'm sure that will be one I want to grade.
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PCGS graded this one (a while ago now) at XF 45!


Looks like they got it right. The luster is notably impaired with significant friction showing in all the fields. I doubt it would grade higher than 45 today but you might get a 50 out of it on a given day.

I'd try it at CAC first to see if it gets a Green Sticker for being accurately graded. This coin got hit for the problematic fields, not the wear on the devices.
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Looks like they got it right.


Perhaps AU-50 on a very good day but I'd say that's the ceiling.
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Doesn't surprise me that the coin is in a 1st generation XF-45 holder. It's easily an AU-53 or perhaps better. Very nice strike on the eagle. Both Charlotte and Dahlonega coins usually come with weak strikes. This one looks quite sharp. Personally, I'd leave this and the 1851-C Dollar in their current holders. Those in the know will recognize its true grade and value, and will be willing to pay better than XF-45 money for the coin.

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Update: Heritage sent this to CAC and it passed. I haven't officially consigned any coins with them yet, but they have been handling the grading process for a number of coins.

I wonder if this was a bit of a mistake and it really should have been sent in for a new grade first, since it sounds like AU would be a real possibility.
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Personally, I'd leave this and the 1851-C Dollar in their current holders.
Those in the know will recognize its true grade and value, and will be willing to pay better than XF-45 money for the coin.

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Totally agree with this
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Totally agree with this
But I'm hoping to keep this coin in my collection and I purchased an NGC storage box...how am I going to get this rattler to fit nicely in the box?!? ;)
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PCGS slabs fit great in NGC boxes
NGC slabs don't fit well in PCGS boxes
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Nice.
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PCGS slabs fit great in NGC boxes
RIght...this is why I opted for the NGC box. While the later PCGS slabs fit well, I don't think the smaller first generation slabs will.
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I wonder if this was a bit of a mistake and it really should have been sent in for a new grade first, since it sounds like AU would be a real possibility.


Nope. That little green bean just bought you the price of another grade, and it probably wouldn't have Beaned at 50. The market trusts CAC more than PCGS these days. You can see what those beans to do prices in auction results.

I have to agree with them, and the comments regarding impaired luster. The technical merits may be better, but the fields hold it back. You'll be just fine with this one.
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The market trusts CAC more than PCGS these days.
Interesting! I'm currently in the process of deciding whether to try crossing some coins from NGC to PCGS or whether to just try CAC with the NGC coins. I was inclining toward PCGS cross, but maybe CAC would be a less expensive option that might actually increase value more?
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