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Having some trouble finding the dates I need in the condition I want, so I doubled up. This is the second 1840 I'm adding to my collection. I love the color and surfaces of this. It's N-6. Some would say I paid too much, but it's a pretty coin. As far as sharpness, I'm putting it between vf30 and 35. Maybe net to vf 20-25 for eac grade? Could have had a very old cleaning, but I don't care. It has that very cool crackly snake skin look on the obverse. :) http://www.ebay.com/itm/26173974600...563587123016Edited by scottk
01/27/2015 3:43 pm
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I'm at VF25 for sharpness and my EAC grade would be 20. These earlier petite heads are scarce compared to the later dates. I think you did alright.
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I would call it a win and to blazes with the cheapskates. I think it is a nice coin, and would have been growling bad names at you if I were the under bidder.
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I saw this coin last week and thought about buying it but an 1817 by the same seller caught my eye instead. I guess I'm going to have to remove this coin from my watch list now.  Cool large date pick up. Is your other a small date? Edited by Celticsoul
01/27/2015 6:00 pm
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Holy rusted metal Celtic!
My other one is a small date. I didn't even realize that. My other is an N-1.
That seller 'indeetlib' has ALOT of really cool mid grade early coppers. Browsing his shop is like walking through a candy store.
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm seeing near-terminal die wear on an undergraded coin here.
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That's why I considered buying it.
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So it's a vf 35 that looks like a vf 20?
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The seller is in Connecticut btw.
I imagine he probably cannot leave his house to ship this one until the snow melts.
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So it's a vf 35 that looks like a vf 20? Nope, it's an XF40 that looks like a VF20. Consider what a late die state like this is still capable of striking. The basining has collapsed, and the stars are drawn to the edge. Nothing at the rim can be trusted. So you can only grade what it can still strike, in this basically the center devices and you should be factoring die wear too for them. So I see a coin that has, in context, only earned XF-level wear. Others may see otherwise. |
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Interesting.
I did notice the words around the edge of the reverse (USA) looked really worn, but I couldn't imagine how the coin would wear only around the edge and not in the center. I was afraid something had been done to to it.
Haha...
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That seller 'indeetlib' has ALOT of really cool mid grade early coppers I know Kevin personally, and have done several transactions with him. I can assure all who love old copper, Colonials and US Federal issues.. You won't be disappointed with his coins or service :-) BTW, I trust his experience/grade opinions without any doubt in my mind. swcoin.ecrater.com
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I've purchased a 1788 New Jersey Copper from him as well. Both coins I've purchased from Inde Et Lib Numismatics were above par. I highly recommend this seller.
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The way metal flows during the strike requires dies to be slightly "dished," concave with the center deeper than the periphery. This is called basnining, and although I don't know to what degree Large Cent dies were ground, you can see the effect of the periphery of the die being too low for a full strike on this coin. The die has essentially been "pounded flat" by thousands of strikes.
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This Dave :-)
It is obvious on this particular coin too. Easily seen as compared to the central devices in fact, I see a lot of this in 1840-42 dated Large Cents.
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