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Adding A Pedigree - Remick Collection

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Does anyone here know if PCGS will pedigree coins from the Remick Collection, analogous to what they have done for other major collections (e.g., Pittman)?

I have a coin that was purchased raw from Spink Auction of the Jerry Remick Collection of Coins of the British Colonies & Commonwealth (Part III - Central America West Indies & Canada), from January of 2007. The person who purchased that coin submitted it to PCGS in July of 2007. I purchased the coin late last month, and I have all the paperwork with the coin which includes:

- the Spink Auction invoice, stating it is from the Remick Collection
- the 2007 PCGS email with the results of grading.

Back to my question, if I submitted this coin in its PCGS slab, and copies of the relevant paperwork, would they add the Remick Collection pedigree to the coin? It was a pretty famous collection.

This would not add any monetary value to this piece, it is a key date on its own, but it would add some serious sentimental value to me. Jerry (Jerome) Remick, like me, was a geologist who had a passion for writing about coins... Just like the Pittman coins I own from my birth year, I feel this coin needs its pedigree...

Anyone here have any experience adding a pedigree to a coin? Would this be something best solved by a "walk-through service" at a major show?
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I hope you can get it done and it sounds as if you should. I met Jerry a few times and have always admired the work he's done. It's a great pedigree. Good luck, I hope someone here has experience with this.
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I believe PCGS already has a Remick collection label. All you need is adequate verification and they will add one of their specialty labels.
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http://mobile.davidlawrence.com/inv...lotid/404673

Oops. Mobile site. Guess you know where I'm browsing from.
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The PCGS label is a different Remick I fear. Hubert Remick collection of Early American and Canadian currency and coinage.
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NGC has a similar pedigree. Look up Heritage results - almost 400 mentions of a Remick pedigree - and see what's to be seen.
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IF the coin was plated in the catalog and your coin can be identified as the coin in the plate, then yes they would probably do so. If it wasn't plated and since it isn't still in a sealed flip from the auction almost certainly NO.

There was a big flap several years back over a Woods Hibernia piece that PCGS pedigreed to the Norweb collection on the sayso of a submitter that turned out NOT to be from the collection.
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OK, I downloaded the PDF of the entire auction catalogue... and a bit of bad luck there!! Lot 1442 is the coin in question.

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So I went online and dug into their Prices Realized section, and found this!! Unfortunately, a high resolution image was not available.

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Here is my coin... (my photos, through the PCGS plastic)

http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/coi...5&sid=117576

Do you think that would be "proof" enough, along with the auction receipt and original PCGS submission information from 2007?
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The real key is going to be whether or not they can match the coin to the image. The auction invoice is worthless because there is no way to definitively connect it to the coin in hand. As to the original PCGS submission information I have no idea because I don't know what is on that.

Look at your coin and try to find any identifying features that can also be seen in the auction image, (I see a tiny dig between the O and N of ONE that seems to also be on the auction image, and your coin also looks to have a cut through the ribbons behind the hair but I can't tell if that is on the image or not.) When you send it in requesting the pedigree make sure you send them the link to the image and list all the identifying features you can find. (It's easier for them to confirm what you've found than to try and find them themselves.) You might also try contacting Spinks to see if they have a better image of the coin (identified as to the auction) an if they do send that as well.
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Just to put closure to this, I got my pedigree, and paid only CAN$25 for that plus some photos and a nice new PCGS Secure slab:

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/11705144
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Congratulations.
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