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Belgique - Is It A Country?

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Alright I feel a bit stupid asking this but I have this coin and it says Beligique at the top. Is Belgique a country? If not, where is this coin from?

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 Posted 09/22/2007  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Belgium, this coin is almost the same size as a cent, and I have gotten one in change a long time ago.
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On Many of the Notes and coins They have both a French and Dutch legend, Because of the diversity of the population.
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Belgium is a bilingual country, with the northern half speaking Flemish (basically a variant of Dutch) and the southern half speaking French. Belgium actually issues (or rather issued, since it's not in the Eurozone) two different sets of coins simultaneously, one in French, the other in Flemish. Coins like yours with "Belgique" or "des Belges" are French types; coins with "Belgie" or "der Belgen" are Flemish.

Occasionally, for commemorative coins, only a single type would be issued; this would either be bilingual or have Latin on the coin instead.
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Since I lost a twenty minute answer trying to rename a pic so the forum would accept it I will be short cause this is the third time that renaming a pic to no spaces looses me what I typed

Napoleon lost war in Waterloo 1815
1830 powers decide to errect Belgium as buffer
all in power speak French
1831 after shopping for a year they find king Leopold I

Fast Forward 1967 they want flemish engineers and lawyers etc to pacify and I went to Univ on a grant just enough not to starve
at this time 52% are flemish and their taxes are flowing to french
Fast Forward to today
Government crisis because the three autonomous regions Wallonia Brussels capital city and Flanders still see too much money going to the frenchspeaking and Flanders wants to keep its money

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There have been coins with French and Later Flemish titles and Later Latin titles
We lost ground to germany in WWI and got it back after WWII the people learned German so we now are threelingual French Flemish German

The difference between Flemish and Hollandish Dutch is as great as the difference between London English and American

The comment on the Eurozone I do not understand
We are Eurozone and use Euro we are European member
It is amongst others the British that decided to stay in Pounds and I seem to remember the Norse in their money

The last threelingual coin in 50ECU at 1/2 oz was the right of the people issue at 2400 strike only

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quote:
The comment on the Eurozone I do not understand

Yes, sorry Ageka, I don't understand it either. That's a typo.

I meant to say, "since it's NOW in the Eurozone", meaning that with the introduction of the euro, Belgium no longer issues two parallel circulation coinages for each language.

Circulating Euro coinage in Belgium's name gets around the "language problem" by avoiding language on the coin altogether; only the king's portrait and monogram are shown. The 2007 Treaty of Rome commemorative €2 is the first circulating Belgian euro coin to use words; the languages on it are French, Flemish, and German for the country name, with the treaty named in Latin.
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Belgique is just French for Belgian...
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Thats right I was mistaken , Some of the coins are issued with Dutch legends and some with French .

Thank you for correcting me , I am trying to remember to much.
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quote:
Belgique is just French for Belgian...


I am afraid that is gramatically incorect
The country I live in is called Belgium in english or Belgique in French or België in flemish or Belgien in german

Belgian means coming from Belgium
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@SAP

you know so much more about eurocoinage then I do so I was confused with your comment

I stopped caring about belgian gold coins after that 1998 50 ECU coin
I think I have all the 50 and 100 ECU coins

When europe decided that the euorpean currency unit ECU was politically not acceptable any more and renamed it the EURO I lost all intrest when I saw the prices of those renamed euro coins


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wow thanks sap I never knew that about belgian coins, even though I have a few I never noticed that!
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quote:
The 2007 Treaty of Rome commemorative €2 is the first circulating Belgian euro coin to use words; the languages on it are French, Flemish, and German for the country name, with the treaty named in Latin.

Yep, the 2005 commem does not have any "country indicator", and the 2006 commem has a "B" at the top. On the non-circulating euro collector coins, the country name is always written out in the three languages. The order of the three varies from issue to issue, with the German version usually being the last one (since the German community is pretty small). When it comes to the issue themes, the languages vary, with English and above all Latin being preferred as "neutral" languages ...

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"I am afraid that is gramatically incorect"

I was talking about Belgique being an adjective equivalent to Belgian - please don't correct my English...

Belgium = Belgie, Belge (I assume)
Belgian = Belgie, Belgique

I know a little Nederlands and also some Francais.


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Hmm, "Belgique" may look like an adjective, but I don't think it is. Somebody who is a citizen of Belgium would AFAIK be a Belg (pl. Belgen) in Dutch and a Belge (pl. Belges) in French.

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