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Valued Member
Canada
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I have recently found this Morgan dollar in a purse in my house that hasn't been touched scince the 60s. im just wondering if they had fake morgans that time? Here are some pictures to see if its fake or not and the type of conditions its in   |
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Moderator
 United States
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Can you weigh the coin and give us its measurements?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like a fake to me. The date is funny and the arrow feathers on reverse are not quite right. nlp
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It appears to be fake. The date looks wrong, as well as the overall appearance. It just looks "off".
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The obverse die being misaligned such as this example is usually a pretty good indicator of a counterfeit as this condition is quite uncommon on authentic coins. Check the weight and thickness, the weight can be correct if the thickness is compensated.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Dont think I have a scale to wight it but here is a high light pic beside a ruler and a few other coins for comparison  |
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United States
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That would be an awfully nice fake coin... Hm, start with a magnet test. And yes, white metal fakes have been around forever.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That is what I was thinking too, try a magnet. I just don't see the logic of faking that coin even faking the wear. That grade and year isn't that valuable. About or less then $30 on ebay. 40 years ago much less. Edited by buddy16cat
02/13/2015 2:40 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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Not magnetic, it does have the low tone clink sound like most of my sliver coins do for width its a tad wider then a 1972 dollar. Using a ruler for the width it looks around 2.3ish to 2.4/5ish.
And bit more information about the coin, this coin was aquired after world war 2. Around late50s or early 60s
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I just don't see the logic of faking that coin even faking the wear. That grade and year isn't that valuable. Last year for Christmas, my brother in laws ex-wife gave my son a heavily worn 1884 Morgan. She said someone came into the Pizza shop she worked for and used it to pay for a pizza. After looking at it, we noticed wavy lines in the fields, odd shaped stars, and other questionable details. We weighed it, and it came up light. After that he did a scratch test, where we figured it was most likely a plated brass counterfeit. The moral of the story.....date, wear, and numismatic value have nothing to do with whether a coin will be faked or not. To the OP, the best way to self authenticate any Morgan or Peace dollar is by attributing a VAM to it. See if you can find any die markers or cracks that match any of these........ http://www.vamworld.com/1889-P+VAMs |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Fake Morgans have been made for almost as long as genuine Morgans have been made. It's just that the genuine ones are by far and away more mumerous.  Do a comparative ring tone test against a known genuine Morgan. Costs nothing to do this test, and easy to do. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Well after a couple of months I finally had it tested today by a excoinshop owner/dealer that now sells at flea markets.
Results.
100% Authentic
Cleaned very very long ago
He graded it around EF 20
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Valued Member
United States
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I was going to say, it looks real to me. I do not know what other users are seeing that makes them say fake. Maybe the cleaning is playing tricks on their eyes.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm as guilty of it as most are but this is a good reason why it's dangerous to definitively state that an item is or is not fake based on photographs. It screamed fake upon the first shots but the re-posted picture with different lighting changed my opinion pretty quick.
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Posted 02/13/2015 08:38 am
