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Should I attempt to lightly erase them or leave them as is?

Not sure if I'd be doing more harm than good by trying to erase them.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks folks.
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 Posted 02/14/2015  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Show us a photo but, I would advise not to try to 'erase' them.
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 Posted 02/14/2015  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, that was my sense as well, but wanted to hear what the experts had to say.

I will post a photo later on. Thanks again!
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I would leave the pencil mark on it, sure it's a distraction but if you erase too hard, then you start to lose paper quality and also the color of the area that you erased could be different than the rest of the note.
I have a note that I bought that had an inked 50 on it that was erased and I think that the damage was worse than if he left it alone.
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 Posted 02/14/2015  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good to know. If it were ink, I definitely would've left it alone, but considering it was pencil, I wasn't 100% sure so I thought I'd ask.
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A pencil will slightly score the surface of a banknote. the score mark cannot be erased. The shallower it the better, perhaps to the extent that it is very hard to find.

The core of a pencil is composed of clay and carbon. A greater proportion of clay in the mix will result in a harder pencil grade, and will require greater pressure to leave an acceptably visible mark.

Pencil marks remain on the surface of a banknote, and for that reason can be easier to remove. Inks can stain the body fiber of the note, or mix with the inks used in the printing of the note.

"Don't clean coins" can reasonably apply to banknotes as well, but it seems that restoration work is more commonly carried out on valuable banknotes.

Highly valuable old pictures in public art galleries are often subject to professional restoration.
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The core of a pencil is composed of clay and carbon. A greater proportion of clay in the mix will result in a harder pencil grade, and will require greater pressure to leave an acceptably visible mark.

Most pencil "leads" are made not of just "carbon" but rather graphite in a graphite-clay composite. I say most since there are charcoal, pastel, aquarelle, paper-wrapped grease, and (my favorite) indelible pencils. [However, the indelibles are being very hard to find in the States with Sanford's abandonment of the Noblot 705) And don't get me started on the eraser pencils...however, their use is far more limited.

If you are ever so inclined to try to remove pencil marks, your best bet is to use a kneaded rubber eraser rather than a standard one, the kneaded rubber isn't as abrasive and doesn't leave rubber shards everywhere.
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A solution of mild soap and water applied locally might be an option. Try experimenting on a common note. I would NOT use an eraser.
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02/14/2015 6:53 pm
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Then I probably should stop drawing stuff with pencil on the poly notes. They rub off easily so I didm't think it would damage them. Unlike paper which the lead will leave a scratch even when the mark is erased.
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i believe erasing would leave a nice fading in that particular spot... which would in turn lead to the same degradation of a pencil mark!
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best answer is from groszy...

I go to an arts supply store and get a very soft type of eraser... it's the type that's almost like play doah... you can make it into a ball or a fine tip.. (the kind I get is blue)

Anyways.. with that just press it on and into the note and pull off.. it's the best way to get pencil marks off.. try not to rub.. just dab it soft and slow
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Thanks for the ideas everyone. Happy Family Day, from Ontario.
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Skip if the note is quite valuable, a couple of reasonable thoughts. First contact NCS a division of NGC and get a quote. Other idea go to a local business that does restorative work on art , paintings, and sculptures. Here in Victoria years ago there was a restoration specialist of books and documents who was amazing, a true PROFFESSIONAL . I was doing some consultation for a law firm on a collection of notes and coins and we needed tape removal on a 1900 4 dollar, and a red pencil counting mark on a 1935 25 Dollar . She was able to save both at a very reasonable rate.
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For really valuable notes that's a fantastic idea pacific
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Excellent advice Pacific, thanks!
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