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1959 Penny Error? Maybe DD And B Is Backwards In Liberty

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Not sure what you are seeing on the LIBERTY? But a hub doubled die will enlarge the devices:
This is kind of minor, but note the arrows:
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Or stronger examples:
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Here is a side by side with the single squeeze hubbing (Note how the hubbing enlarges the size of the devices)
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But not to be confused with machine damage to the devices (die movement during the strike from a normal die)
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Note how the devices are damaged after the strike, reducing the size of them? A lot of people have a hard time with I dentifying this type of "so called" doubling.
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More of the same thing, but in different directions. But still Machine damaged devices.
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The B looks backwards in LIBERTY. God looks thicker too. All machine I take it?
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I think the B looks funny, too.

I hate to ask, because I know how hard it can be, but can you get a close-up with less glare?
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A better image might show us more. So you see the size of images we need to tell for sure. I like them in the 600-1000 pixel width range. The 1000 can be enlarged to see even more detail. So when you get more images like I posted, add them to this thread and we can continue the discussion. Looking forward to seeing what you are seeing.

Glare can be removed with something as simple as a piece of grocery bag to diffuse the light. It your light is too strong, it can be diffused with a sheet or two images of computer paper. That is some of the things I use. Depending on what you are using, it can vary. But light/shadows make a great image. Too much light or too little light can be hard to see what you are seeing. Here is an image that I edited to get the light/color/sharpness just right. The image taker did a good basic job:
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Note light and darkness just right. light/shadows/a little editing and we now have a great picture.


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It looks doubled but I guess not. I'm still a rookie here
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When you see the area on the outside edge of LIBERTY affected, it is die wear/deterioration.
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The date shows wear to the rim to the right. Liberty show wear to the left. The motto toward the rim. That is what you are seeing on your coin. Note on your coin the right side of LIBERTY is strong, the left side of LIBERTY shows the die wear/deterioration and being weak on that side.
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The B certainly did look backwars in that first pic(don't know how that could be tho) but in the second pic it does not look backwards....
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 Posted 02/18/2015  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in a dry spell with errors over here I'll take a backwards B at this point! Lol
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 Posted 02/18/2015  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snatched to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On liberty it shows more faded/deteriorated on the right. It looks better facing the rim
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The picture you have shown coop shows the shadow/fade/deteriorate opposite of my picture.
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It looks like Die Deterioration I just learning about how hard these DDO's are to find a legitimate one I have found tons of Machine Doubling . Finally I can look and at most of them quickly toss to the side knowing full well its Machine Doubling or Die Deterioration. This one I agree with coop on :)
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Snatched,
What are you using to take pics?
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My phone and a 3x scope
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Have you read this post? https://goccf.com/t/116512
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