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 Posted 02/18/2015  10:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1937-Aus...em339de2662c
need say no more look at his listings just praying on the ill informed place is full of it could not be botherd even contacting ebay any more as by the time its dealed with its alrady over 221692192300
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 Posted 02/18/2015  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Normic67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The link takes me to the main page of ebay, ebay home.
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 Posted 02/18/2015  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is why ebay is racing to the crash and burn finish line. They don't care what is sold as long as they get the fees.
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 Posted 02/18/2015  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, there's nothing wrong with selling fakes like this. Every coin collector in Australia knows that no penny was issued in 1937. Many people like to have coins like this as space fillers or novelty items. Some 1930 space fillers have sold for quite large sums of money, as it happens (depending on how realistic they look).
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02/18/2015 11:43 pm
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 Posted 02/19/2015  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything wrong with this add , he quite clearly states its a novelty and that is slightly thinner , He even tells them they were never made in that year.

I think its a fair and honest add. Just my opinion of course.
My only problem is what happens when others get them and what they will attempt to do with them.
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 Posted 02/19/2015  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"swindeler" is a very harsh term - I see nothing wrong with the listing.
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 Posted 02/19/2015  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rottnrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also see nothing wrong with that listing. He makes it very clear what you are bidding on.
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Australia never made 1937 pennies however here it is. This coin has been produced as a very novel coin. It is slightly thinner than a standard penny and features king George the 6th on the back.


Good enough for me.
Not sure if fantasy coins need to have "COPY" on them

If it's the same size as a genuine penny then IMO, it should.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interestingly, it seems to be only Australian collectors who want 'fakes' for rare or nonexistent years.

I haven't found any evidence that, for example, you can buy a 'fake' 1933 British penny.

There are also very rare years for Irish coins, years when I think only a handful were struck, but I've never seen substitutes offered.

I wonder what this says about Aussie collectors!

I'm surprised the Perth Mint hasn't attempted to cater for the market by producing a replica 1930 penny. It would simply need a mintmark or some other identifying touch to ensure that it could not be mistaken for a real one. But it would make a lot of collectors happy.

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02/25/2015 11:55 pm
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 Posted 02/26/2015  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jimjam I think it has a lot more to do with our laws than it does collectors, Its not against the law to make fakes copies or replicas here as long as it is not exactly the same as the original and in most cases its the weight. As long as your not trying to pass it off as an original its not deemed fraud or fraudulent. (must have been a crook with some 1930 fakes who made that law LOL.)
Maybe it should have to carry the word "copy" on it as it does in some other countries, But I don't make the laws.
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HMMM
how about this one from the same seller.
Regardless of how the listing is worded something like this without "Copy" on it is just asking for problems down the track.
Why go to the trouble of making the coin look "Circulated" if it is intended solely as a "Fantasy" piece.

The same thing happened a while back and now we are inundated by fake 1930 and 1925 pennys .
I'm with Shane on this one, However the listing is worded the coins are inappropriate and must be marked clearly with the word COPY

oops forgot to add the link

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1937-Aus...221692192300
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02/26/2015 01:38 am
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Yes trout I hear you BUT this coin is as you have all taught me very easy to spot , that date is a mess nothing like what it should be infact the entire coin appears to be second grade.
The problem will also be then black market coins once its made law to have a distinguishing mark on them like the word "copy" the black market coins will become very difficult for those looking to know its a fake replica come fantasy coin as they will just assume its real because fakes must be described as such. I don't think it will ever stop now its to late and I bet they have already made thousands of them. Good old china clone ya mother for a yen.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they make them look circulated so they'll fit into a Dansco album and not stick out like a sore thumb alongside the others.

I don't think the Chinese trade in fake coins can be as bad as some people make out because we haven't as yet seen any fake 1933 British pennies or 1938 Irish pennies (2 only known) being offered for sale.
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02/26/2015 6:22 pm
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Quote:
"I don't think the Chinese trade in fake coins can be as bad as some people make out"


I disagree with this statement
Its bad and it will get worse.

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