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2013 Fort Mchenry Quarter Error?

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Idk what this is please she'd some light as I never looked at the newer quarters with the letters and numbers indented. Let me know I'd this is a common thing or what it's called cause I'm lost and Google isn't being helpful.

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On incuse devices, coin contact can affect these devices. It makes if look like something is going behind them, when actually the contact is affecting the outer edge of the coin.
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Hub doubling on incuse devices do the opposite. Hub doubling on incuse devices actually reduce the size of the devices.
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So on the dates and other devices on these quarters with the incuse devices, if the doubling is enlarged, it is actually machine damaged during the strike.
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The devices on the Parks quarters that make the incuse design are raised above the die (positive on a negative die) and the coin will have an incuse design on a positive coin. (incuse on a positive design) I know this sounds confusing, but when the dies move during the strike it enlarges the design. (machine doubled from die movement damage) I wish I have better examples to show. But they will eventually turn up with all these quarters out there.

So on raised devices:
If the design is reducing the size of the devices, it is machine damaged (doubled).
If the devices are enlarged, then it is hub doubling.

On incuse devices:
If the design is reducing the size of the devices, it is hub doubling.
If the devices are enlarged, then it is machine damaged (doubling).

Movement during the strike affects the devices differently.
Contact during circulation affect them differently.

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I too recently found a ATB Quarter that appeared to have incuse letter doubling. This editorial by Mike Diamond for Coin World was the most in depth info I could find. It gets kinda technical but it left me with a better understanding on the subject. Hope it helps.

http://www.coinworld.com/insights/v...machin.html#
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Thank you both of you . The second article is a good one it explains exactly what I'm looking at
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I have to question this one. How did the feature manage to go under the curve of the B without damaging it, and how did the top of the I infringe on the side of the feature without damage? The I, at least, could not have been struck before that feature appeared. And if it's incuse, why is it reflecting light from the side facing the light source?
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Are you referring to the doubling of the "013" in 2013? In the second picture I can see the doubling of the "0" good and at the top of the "1" and the "3". I believe this to be Machine Doubling. Because the date is incuse Machine Doubling looks a lot different then if the numbers were raised.
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Hmmm. It_does look different when I realize the original lettering is incuse. Never mind.

See, this is why I don't do Moderns.
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