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Canada 1c 1859 Brass Cent F15 On Ebay $22500

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Does anyone believe this is real?



http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1859-N9-Bras...271784366902

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 Posted 02/22/2015  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow that is a nice price! the seller is asking that, not getting the money yet! Still it is harshly cleaned!
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 Posted 02/23/2015  12:09 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would need to crack that one out and test it with the XRF...
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 Posted 02/23/2015  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like it has the right color to it
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 Posted 02/23/2015  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope the seller didn't pay a fortune :)...

a brass 1859 in a "PNG" holder...maybe we'll see one in an "NNC" holder soon? ;)

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 Posted 02/23/2015  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would need that to be triple graded before an XRF.
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There is something about the date on the reverse that doesn't seem just right.
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I don't believe this for a second. The denticles are way too sharp and defined to be brass like I've seen before. I think that the "unfortunate cleaning" that the seller refers to magically changed the bronze to brass. Any one of 100 household cleaners will turn bronze a yellowy brass color. A person would have to be brain dead to buy this without at least an XRF.
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I just love the reverse pic offered here...Nice way to advertize a $22,500 coin,.. and the obverse pic isn't much better..

Hope that he takes a photo course with his possible winnings... "shake ...rock and roll"
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not to mention, you think you would take better pictures if you are asking for 22500!
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Knowing that the only really way to prove this is Brass is from an XRF, shouldn't the TPG offer this test result when they grade a coin like this? if this was my coin and I had it graded that would be the first thing I would be wanting from them.
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As mentioned above, the cert by this TPG on an extremely scarce coin immediately sends up red flags. Now, PCGS would have been another story, but not a cert with this outfit.
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I have learned that this coin does not belong to the seller (vforce) - it is a consignment. This ebay seller has some Canadian numismatic rarities in his collection, including a gem pattern 5-cent (DC-29) - that is why this listing from him was so puzzling.

That said, I will undoubtedly tease Howard over several beers in Montreal, about his stellar photography skills!!
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