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Cleaning Coins A No No, What About Buff Them?

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 Posted 10/03/2007  09:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ozzylady to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
several years ago I bought a (silver) coin collection from a guy who had them in the cardboard type albums, the coins were all AU to BU and very shiny. I've had them in my closet in a "breathable" bag all this time and yesterday was the first time I pulled them out to look at them in a very long time. needless to say, they are not so shiny and pretty, they are turning brown and blackish. any clues to what can be done with them now, can they be gently buffed with a soft cloth like the ones to clean eyeglasses or are they a lost cause? think i'll do better with them in Vegas?

thx in advance for your input,



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 Posted 10/03/2007  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, sorry ozzy, there's nothing you can do to remove tarnish that wouldn't be considered "cleaning".
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...I've had them in my closet in a "breathable" bag all this time...

There's your mistake. I'm not entirely sure what a "breathable bag" is, but it doesn't sound good. For collectors of nice shiny coins, the air is the enemy. Oxygen and other stuff in the air (like sea salt, humidity, air pollution or cigarette smoke) will tone/tarnish your coins. The closet might also be pine or some other wood which emits noxious vapours, discolouring coins over time. Finally, the cardboard album itself likely contains sulfur, which makes just about any metal it touches turn black.

The good news is, most collectors prefer their coins to look their age. Some even pay a premium for particularly appealing toning, leading to some unscrupulous types "artificially toning" their formerly shiny coins.

We coin collectors are a funny lot.
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 Posted 10/03/2007  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You failed to mention what type of coins? Just Silver could mean anything from real Silver to Silver plated to Silver looking to anything. What dates? What condition of each? What Mints are they from. Is the album in reality a cardboard folder, not an album? What brand? As to the crud on the coins. If the coins are just common coins, you could have fun attempting to bring back that beatiful shine.
For one thing you could try the famous Acetone treatment. Dip the coins in Acetone, rinse with distilled water, blow dry. Probably will do very little though.
Rubbing those coins will finish ruining them for sure
You should get those coins out of that folder as fast as possible. If in reality it is a folder, not an album, where you can see only the front of the coins, that is bad. Usually the reverse is worse than the front, obverse. If a folder, the process is to spread glue on a sheet of paperish material, slap a prepunched holed sheet of cardboard on that. Note the glue is still present in the back of the holes. This is great for kids since many coins would fall out of the slots due to wear. Kids wet the glue to hold the coins in place. Not good for the coins.
You should really find out what you have before attempting to do anything. If one of those coins is worth thousands of dollars and you ruin it further..........
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 Posted 10/04/2007  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozzylady to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the coins are Mercury dimes up to 1945, Roosevelt dimes up to 1964 and Washington quarters up to 1964. yes they are/were in folders, not albums and I had them in a mesh/vinyl little travel bag. I am in the process now of moving the coins to flip holders. or will those be just as bad?
i hate being so ignorant that becuz of wat I did, tarnished those beautiful coins. live and learn.
thx everyone for your input, it is all greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 10/04/2007  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on the type of flip holders. Should be made for coins and PVC free. Most sold today are fine, but not the older ones. If not too late, wear cotton or vinyl (powder free) gloves when removing them from the folders. The grease from your hands can cause damage as well.
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 Posted 10/04/2007  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I forgot to mention about that using your fingers to mess with those coins. As noted oils and acids from your fingers can also do damage to coins. The acids will leave finger prints on coins that almost never can be removed if left to set. Check out these web sites for coin cleaning and you'll find many suggestions on what to and what not to do with coins. Like I said you wouldn't want to ruin a valuable coin. For sure attempt to buy a Red Book on coins for info on which may be of greater value so you don't mess with those if possible. For example in Merc Dimes a 16D, 21, 21D, 26S, etc. Also, be carefull of the 42's. There are 42 over 41's that are expensive.
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 Posted 10/04/2007  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozzylady to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thx just carl. and just to let you know, I do use cotton gloves every time I handle any of my coins, as for the Red Book, i'll admit that mine is from 2006 and I do need to purchase a current one. The flips that I am now putting all my coins in are from a reputable dealer and they are PVC free, I believe they are mylar. boy what a chore to remove all those coins from those rotten old folders and put them in the flips.
i sure wish I had those few coins you mentioned, eg; 1916D Mercury dime, I believe those puppies are worth around $800 in F - VF condition. but then again, my Red Book is not current and they could be even more than that. please keep up with all the tips, as I know some of that stuff, but of course not everything that I should or need to know. You all have been a tremendous help thus far and I appreciate all of the tips.
You all are GREAT!
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 Posted 10/04/2007  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Ozzylady,

Welcome to the forum!

I'm probably in the minority here, but in the case of mint-state silver coins that have dark, unattractive toning I would consider a light treatment with a commercial coin cleaner like EZ-est. Many coin dealers "dip" coins to address situations like yours. Here's how I would do it:

1) Dilute the cleaner with distilled water at a level of maybe 1 part cleaner to 4 parts water. This makes it less aggressive and allows finer control of the "de-toning" process. You won't need much solution; just enough to cover the coin. For a small coin like a dime a shot glass is a big enough container.
2) Immerse my least-valuable toned coin in the diluted cleaner for just a few seconds.
3) Remove the coin and wash it thoroughly in clean distilled water followed by a rinse with pure acetone or methanol (to speed drying). Let it dry completely on a clean towel. Obviously, be very careful not to damage the coin as you handle it.
4) Examine the coin and compare it to the other toned coins in the collection and try to decide whether I've made it better or worse. If the toning is still too dark, I would repeat steps 2 and 3 until I was satisfied.

My goal would be to lighten the toning to the point that details are clear and the remaining tone is attractive rather than ugly. The coin cleaner can be further diluted if a more gentle effect is needed. What you don't want to do is completely strip the toning. Over-dipping is likely to damage the luster. The result would be a dull, lifeless white coin with reduced appeal and possibly lower value.

Any chance you can post photos of some of your coins? I'd love to see just how "brown and blackish" they are!
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 Posted 10/04/2007  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinfest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Funny but depending on what country you are in cleaning might be considered acceptable....USA no, but asia they like to see surface without toning...

If you do want to conserve the coin...we sell a out of print book that is worth its weight in gold... it was done in the 1960's by a chemist and is listed on our website under dealer supplies
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