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1859 Large Cent Haxby I11

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 Posted 02/24/2015  12:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add myskchem to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
New coin in the collection
Any comments on rarity of these bridge dies?


1859--Large-Cent-Haxby-I11

1859--Large-Cent-Haxby-I11

1859--Large-Cent-Haxby-I11
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 Posted 02/24/2015  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We need full pics of rev as well, you have OBV I1 but REV ?
heres is mine https://goccf.com/t/195412&whichpage=10
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In my book, The 1858 Cents of Provincial Canada Volume II, I presented estimates for the rarity of these obverse dies when married to 1859 W9/8 dies. I am not sure if Dr. Haxby has estimated their rarity when married to 1859 narrow 9 dies. You can check his website (vickycents.com). The actual quantity of coins minted by each obverse bridge die would be the sum of the two.
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Fourmack sorry for the image
You can see the ear portion from the obverse portrait die clashed on the reverse between E and N in CENT
This is a marker for rev1
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Fourmack sorry for the image
You can see the ear portion from the obverse portrait die clashed on the reverse between E and N in CENT
This is a marker for rev1

Yes I see it now.
So yours is num 1 as I have num 2.
As far as rarity goes I would say poss 'very scarce'
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Looks like a standard 1859 with a die crack on the N. What makes this a "very scarce coin"
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JeyRey: The AVERAGE life of a '58 or '59 Reverse working die was about 30,000 strikes, but some dies may have lasted well less than 5,000. The Obverse dies lasted much much longer and may have been married to 3-6 different Reverses. Since the Obverse die for this coin was married to a Reverse die utilized for the 9/8's, it had a very reduced life used with this full 1859 Reverse. This is a nice collectible coin for die-trackers, but to me it's just a normal '59 with a D/c Obverse.
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I saw the other side of this bridge for sale on ebay earlier today.
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Okie is quite right: this is a very collectible die for the die trackers, certainly one of the scarcer obverses when coupled with an 1859 N9 reverse. It is particularly interesting in being one of only three dies known (so far) to be coupled with both an 1859/8 and a 59 N9 reverse (bridge die). But, as far as general appearance goes, it's just another die. If you're not into die tracking, so what? This is a good example of rarity not being the only determinant of value -- a fact that all too many people seem to forget.

As Bosox surely knows, there are no mintage or rarity estimates for dies in my online 1859 N9 die catalog. With so many dies (over 400 obv + rev) it would have been extremely difficult to attempt any scientific estimates, especially over such an extended incubation period (about 40 years). I satisfied myself with letting "the marketplace" decide the rarities and values. Can I guess how many N9s were struck with Obv. I1? Sure. Probably no more than a few thousand.
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