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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Would someone who access to the ICCS population report be able to check on the number graded MS63 or above?
Thank you!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Send Pacificoin a message.. he has the ICCS pop reports
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New Member
Canada
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Hi, that very good man jdmern did ask in my behalf. But unfortunately I seem to be unable to send an email(button won't work for me(even if I copy the link))or to send a private message(as I didn't find it).
Thanks for the information Pacificoin.
And a greater thanks for jdermn for starting that topic.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1984 Posts |
Last I checked they do note list the population for this variety. I am aware of no MS65 coins. I would say that there are between ICCS and CCCS perhaps 5 to 7 63 or higher.
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Canada
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I assume you meant not instead of note. In that case that isn't a good news. I do know that CCCS doesn't show it on their report. And that up to 2012 ICCS did not either. But that's all I know so far. I guess my hope of finding out are slim.
thanks for your reply.
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1949 Posts |
 Clement! Looking forward to seeing your posts on here! SPP. beautiful example in that other thread, do you have any theories on why this variety would be a grade rarity? |
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Canada
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Probably the result of many grade rarities of that time... possibly just a single production die? Who really knows, the George V series is ripe for a die study in several denominations...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Canada
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Thanks for that SPP-Ottawa. You can add another MS-63 High 9 BR to the one you know. I was the winner here : https://goccf.com/t/195366It is a mistake on my end I did click to early thus gave the chance to a guy to bid bid bid and so on for nearly one minute... The price was few hundreds lower than what I was expecting/supposed to pay. My bad, computer issue. |
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Canada
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That would take my estimate of the number I am sure are out there to 6. Likely more.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I don't think that POP reports for this coin are anywhere near accurate. The variety has not been published for very long where it gets exposure. Many collectors may have them tucked away somewhere, not knowing what they have and they certainly wouldn't have paid to have a '29 certified because the cost of the TPG would have been drastically more than the value of the coin. We had the same problem with Vicky large cent varieties when they first hit Charlton and Trends. Once the price/value of the coin was commonly known, many many came out of the woodwork. |
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Not listed in ICCS report for 2014. Have to agree with okiecoiner on this . I will bet there are lots of these and 1932 Far 2 nickels out there. Probably lots more to be found. Two more examples of Canadian collector fascination with minor and obscure varieties. Way back in the day it was thought that it was necessary to include the 1926 near and far 6 in the blue Whitman folders. That is what in my opinion started all this madness. Digit spacing where the last one or two digits are added is going to result in many variants and is quite arbitrary. Does anyone really care about many date spacing variants on the 1950 Silver Dollar for instance ? This manner of collecting is arbitrary to say the least and one can get burned big time if manner and style of collecting change in the future.
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I agree with you last two as that some coins might just bee waiting in someone's collection to be "discover" but in another forum I read that some members went through their stuff to check out how many high 9 there was and for nearly 500 1929, there was about 1/30 of them considered high 9(were they high or intermediate, I wouldn't know).
I don't think it is only about the spacing, I think it is the possiblity to say, this one used a rare die. As for the penny 1891 and all the varieties it is similar in a way that one has large date and the other one has small date, but yet people pay big money for that in MS.
Thank you pacificoin for checking that out.
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I will bet there are lots of these... Yes, and no... In grades from VG to VF, yes, you can find them. When Jerry first discovered this variety, I bought every 1929 circulated roll I could get my hands on from coin dealers across the country (about 300 rolls in total). I averaged about 3 for every two rolls. Then, I visited almost every coin shop in the country, and hunted at coin shows in Edmonton, Toronto and Montreal, as well as the smaller coin shows from about 2006 to 2010. I had searches saved for every ICCS/CCCS/ICG/NGC/PCGS/ANACS certified 1929 cent on ebay, Heritage and Stacks & Bowers auction sites. For the 1929 High 9, in seven years of hunting every major dealer's inventory and online - I know of two ICCS MS-64 Red, three MS-63 Red & Brown and maybe six in MS-60 brown. I stopped hunting in 2012, when I found mine. I truly think it is a grade rarity AU and higher... As an aside, I am trying to lobby PCGS to put this one in the small cent registry (with varieties). "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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about 300 rolls in total My biggest regret is not saving all those coins - they would have been perfect for a die study on that date, having been originally unsearched... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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United States
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I agree with you, Roger. It would have been very nice (though a lot of work) to carefully examine all those 1929s to settle the issue of whether there are only two date position varieties or more. My guess is there are really only two, but that remains to be confirmed or refuted by extensive research. To be sure it looks like there are only two position varieties for the 1926 5c. So many people have been looking at that one for so long...
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