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Help Identifying If Coin From An Auction Is Coin I Received

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 Posted 02/25/2015  3:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinCity to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello Coin Community,

I need help in identifying if the coin I won in an online auction is the same coin the seller sent me.
The coin I received does not look to me to be the same coin from the auction pictures. I am reaching out to you to give me your opinion since many of you have more experience with coins.

About 5-10% of all coins I won in online auctions ended up being not the same coins from its auction pictures. Sellers would post pictures of a better grade coin, write in the description that pictures are of the coin that will be sent, then they send a different, lower grade coin.

Some coins I receive are easy to identify not being the coins from the auction pictures, for example, they do not have the same mint mark, seller states the auction is for a 1941 D Mercury dime and posts pictures of a 1941 D Mercury dime, then sends a 1941 Mercury dime with no mint marks. Some coins are not that easy to identify.

The coin here in question is a 1936 Buffalo nickel. First 2 pictures are from the auction page posted by the seller:
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Since coins can look different when seen in pictures and in person, I took several pictures (in daylight with camera flash on, without flash and in the dark with camera flash on) to see if any of the pictures will match details of the coin in the auction pictures. I was still not able to identify that it is one and the same coin. I send the pictures I took:
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In the auction pictures, the horn can be seen almost in its entirety.
I can't see it on the coin I received, the horn is worn out, I tried taking pictures using camera under different angles and brightness of light, I can't see the contours of horn's tip.

I looked for scratches on the coin I received and on the coin in the auction pictures to match them, I can not find matching ones. Letters on the coin in the auction pictures are sharp, on the coin I received the letter 'a' (last letter in the word 'America') is worn out at the top and blends into its background, letter 's' (last letter in the word 'cents') at its bottom is flattened and touches the coin's edge, there is no small gap of separation to make it look sharp like in the auction pictures. On the coin I receive a dark line goes vertically from Buffalo's front leg up to its shoulder, I can not see any resembling darker nuances in the auction picture. I marked with white circles some of the issue in the picture below:
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Do you think the coin from the auction pictures is the coin I received?
Thank you for your help.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a different coin.
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No way that is the same coin. Switcheroo!
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 Posted 02/25/2015  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree the horns and s is totally different between the two coins.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send it back. If the seller makes a fuss then file a complaint with ebay stating the coin is not as described and save his listing images to prove it.
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to CCF. Even the nicks and scratches don't match,the coins are different.
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I also agree with the others before me. It is not the same coin. Return it and get a full refund. If seller disagrees open up an Item not as described case.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let the Seller know that the coin that was pictured in the auction is not the coin you received.

If he refuses to acknowledge that fact, then file the "item not as described" dispute and let ebay handle it. Be sure and be aware of the time constraints with the dispute and response process.

When it comes time to leave Feedback then be truthful and let the chips fall where they may.

Letting him get by playing the switcharoo game only enables him to do it to others. I'm sure this is not his first rodeo and he probably has been called out on it before.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ben89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yep, swapped
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 Posted 02/25/2015  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Conclusively not. Regardless of any argument over horn details, the auction coin has a visible ding above the AT in STATES which infringes on the rim. The received coin does not have that ding, and it would be visible in these images.
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 Posted 02/25/2015  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can we have a link to the auction in question?

While it is definitely a different coin than pictured in the auction, I find it hard to believe a seller would want to risk his reputation by intentionally switching out for a lower grade coin when the value of this particualr coin in either grade is so low. What is there to gain?
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Definitely different coin. Let seller know, and hopefully it's an honest mistake. Seller should send correct coin immediately or offer immediate refund with an apology. If you get any push-back from seller, leave negative feedback. I can't stand bait-and-switch. Only neg I ever left was for arrogant B&S seller.
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Please post a link to the auction, and welcome!
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Thank you for the welcome.

I appreciate the time all of you took to share your opinions. There are 11 responses and not one person gave a positive identification of the coins being one and the same coin.

The auction was not on ebay, it was on Listia, with the permission of forum administrators I can send the link.

On that website I already had experiences such as another seller wrote in his auction's description:
"You will receive one of the coins pictured.".
I won the auction and received the coin looking very different from those in the picture. I contacted the seller with a question can he confirm the coin sent is one of those in the picture. He responded:
"If the one I sent is one of the coins actually in the picture itself I am not sure.".
I did not make any drama about it, I let it go, he was at least honest to admit it may not be the same coin.
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