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I'm new to HOBO nickels and picked this one up for a couple of bucks and now would like to know more about it. I know it's a classic style but is it old or modern? There are also initials (KP) on the reverse. I'm guessing that's the maker. Any help would be appreciated.


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No way of knowing when it was done but at least it was engraved by hand. Most of the ones you see today have been engraved by machines.

It was also engraved on a dated coin. A lot of them today are on dateless coins... Yuck!

Kool pickup for a couple of bucks anyway you look at it.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there is a book out there on hobo nickels.Famous makers cost a lot to buy.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Badger Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might be Keith Peterson based on the intials. Try posting on the facebook OHNS group. I really don't know of any "machines" that make hobo nickels.

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"Machines" = "automated computer controlled engraving tools" which can be found at just about any jewelry store or trophy shop that engraves jewelry or awards.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connicoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is my first look at a "HOBO" nickel. Just curious as if this was an Indian and then KP changed it to its current appearance? What a wonderful and unique find ! I want one!
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If you are referring to the machines that engrave text and simple 2d graphics, I know of no one using one of these to create a hobo nickel. If you mean a 3 axis CNC mill, I know of only one person using one on nickels and the style is more like an opaque lithophane engraving than the typical carved hobo nickel. Seeing them side by side, you would not mistake one for the other.

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The one example I found showing Keith Peterson's initials looked different than the initials on this coin.
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Keith does sign them differently, but this might be an early one. I'll ask him.

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That was fast, here is Keith's response:

Yes it was one of my first worst few coins I guess. Pretty bad. Lol
Had no graver control so I stippled the signature.

And there it is...

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The place to come to for answers is always CCF!

Cool!
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Most modern Hobo Nickels are done using dental drills and Dremel tools not "machines". I am a CNC machinist and to program a CNC to do a hobo nickel would not be cost effective.
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Just to add more info to the pool, most modern hobo carvers primarily use gravers to carve their coins, gravers being small hand held chisels. I use the hammer and chisel method of engraving, which uses a hammer to drive the graver rather than hand pushing. Many people are using power assisted gravers, which may be where the idea of machine engraving comes from. These are basically small hand held jackhammers. The graver has a hollow handle which contains a piston that slides up and down. An air hose supplies air that sends the piston back and forth, striking the back of the cutting bit, driving it through the metal. Although these make carving coins easier, it still requires the engraver/carver to control how the metal is removed. Rotary tools are used as well, but usually in combination with gravers. The one guy I know of who is using CNC is using a gray scale photo that is converted into G-code by mapping color to height. Not at all a "traditional" method, but he turns out some interesting pieces that sell very well.

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I really appreciate all the info on this coin as well as how they are created.
Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and time.
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This entire thread is just awesome. Love it.
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