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Double-Struck 1885 Liberty Nickel - Real Or Not?

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I saw this listing. The seller isn't sure if it's real or not and is selling it as a fake for $1300! That's a lot for a fake. What do people think?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Libert...047675.l2557
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Looks like the original listing was pulled. It has been relisted with a warning:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Libert...em4ae5e47fdd

The seller notes as follows:

"I've bought this coin in ebay some years ago. It cost me almost $2500

Some people told me the coin may be counterfeit.
Have fun with bidding. But remember I can't guarantee the authenticity. Coin is sold as fake. I think it's genuine but some people told me it's not. Some other people told it's genuine. So please judge yourself and bid whatever you are willing to pay.

No returns or refunds.
Insured shipping from Germany"
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 Posted 03/02/2015  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rottnrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a fake !!
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I lean fake; needs more denticles on the second strike. They're on the die, after all.
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If this piece was genuine, it would have been in a slab, years ago ...

Come to think of it, I need to get my 1885 slabbed ... Probably XF details!

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Listed as a one day sale with a $1200 opening, not interest. Relisted againa as a one day sale with a $1200 opening and no interest. relisted yet again as a one day sale with a $1000 opening. I think he is hoping to et a quick sale and avoid it being brought to ebays attention. Otherwise why not do a multi-day sale and give more people a change at seeing it?

Oh and it IS a fake.
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Relisted at $999.99 ... being sold as a fake.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Libert...21685514125?

Seller says: "Good luck bidding." So, the lucky buyer gets a counterfeit error ...
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I say fake - no doubt in my mind.
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"I've bought this coin in ebay some years ago. It cost me almost $2500.00"
His story is as fake as the coin.
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Maybe, maybe not. These fakes have been around for awhile and he could have been suckered back then. (Or he may have been marketing the whole time. Who knows.)
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I'm at a loss to explain why this auction was again ended and again relisted. Can anyone tell me why?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Libert...21686672226?

Same price & description as previous one, it appears.

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Think he's trying to keep it away from our view. By now, even if he started innocently having been originally taken himself, it's on him.
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Do not get suckered in. This coin is fake as fake can be. He has been listing it since last Summer and it has been discussed on many coin forums. It is a fake.
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Hmm don't know how I missed this one for so long. I can't see any way that this could be real. I would expect a distinctly different look for it being struck multiple times like that.
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Not a chance it's real. All I needed to see was the date.
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I'm at a loss to explain why this auction was again ended and again relisted. Can anyone tell me why?

He does them as one day sales. He is hoping to get a quick sale to a sucker before he can be discovered. reported and ebay does something about it.
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