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1802 Draped Bust LC

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This is one of the nicer old coppers I've dug. Once in a great while you get a coin that was dropped before it circulated much and is found is sandy soil that drains well. It rarely happens but it's exciting when it does. Here's this one


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That's a nice find!

I'm at AU50 details on this one. Not sure on Sheldon right off the bat.
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Wow, those details look AU all day. One like that would keep me detecting for three years.
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I'm always jealous of you East coast folks. Might, and it's a big might, get a CC here in Cali but nothing like this.
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Definitely AU.

Is that corrosion or just dirt?
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Ha thanks guys. You'd really be jealous if you saw the coin spill I found in November. I dug a 1652 Pine Tree Shilling and a 1664 one real cob about 4' away. Talk about a dream come true. I posted them yesterday. We have some incredibly old dirt here in Maine. I wouldn't mind getting over some of those nice gold coins I see you Cali guys pull once in awhile. And trust me our weather has been terrible. Thanks for the feedback on the LC guys. I appreciate it. I've got a few more I will post in the neat future
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I dug a 1652 Pine Tree Shilling


I don't know whether or not to or
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I literally almost passed out when a small clump of dirt fell off and I could see those unmistakable branches glistening in the sun. I was even more amazed by the condition. Last year was my first full season of detecting and a Mass silver was #1 on what I call my Lifetime Goals List. I couldn't believe it found one so quickly. Likely will never happen again
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This is exactly what I saw when it came out. Then it cleaned up beautifully


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When I get my dropped jaw closed again, I might be able to speak.
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Hey Ploopy there's no real corrosion but the surface has an odd look to it. The reverse actually has some Coin Care on it in the second pic and that's why it looks odd. The ground does some funny stuff to coppers. I dug a 1787 Ct copper close to it that was not in such nice shape. I love the state cents but am yet to find one with nice detail
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If you don't mind me asking, in what sort of location did you dig this? I live right down the road from a bed and breakfast that dates back to the late 19th century and a trolley stop that is even older. I have always wanted to detect there to see if I could find any coinage, but as of now two things are stopping me. One, the weather, and two, the fact that I've never even seen let alone held and used a metal detector in my life, so far.
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Hey Pytellc,
I am a colonial history lover. I research colonial history like crazy and this research normally leads me to these areas. The majority of the success I've had has come on the edge of historic rivers. People needed the waterways back then like we need roads. Ferry crossings, mill sites, old fort sites, any place that's old and had activity is a good spot to hunt. But as I said before I have had incredible success on the edges of historic water areas. I've also had the pleasure of detecting on some incredibly historic islands and have done very well. A fair amount of Spanish silver and a lot of early coppers. I am totally addicted to detecting. The better and more research you do the more success you will have
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First I have to warn you that I am a member of Early American Copper (EAC) and we grade copper coins very strictly. Although others are claiming this coin is AU I see the details grading no higher than EF-45. Due to heavy corrosion I will have to net grade this coin down two grades to VF-35. That basically means that I would be willing to pay VF-35 money for the coin even though the details are EF-45, this is due to the corrosion.
In my opinion this is die variety S-227. The fact that the highest wave of Liberty's hair is directly under the upright of the R is diagnostic. This die variety has a rarity designation of R.3 meaning that this is a fairly rare variety.
Therefore my grade and attribution for this coin is 1802 S-227 R.3 45/35.
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If I lived where you do, that's all I'd be doing as I eat, sleep, drink Colonial American history as well.
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Celticsoul I very much appreciate you chiming in. Anytime I can find a dug 200+ year old coin that's in VF or better condition I'm a very happy guy. And all I'm looking for is honest opinions here. I don't pretend that my coins are something they're not. They've been sitting in the dirt for hundreds of years. I'm just happy when I find one
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