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1884-S Morgan... You Vs PCGS

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1884-S-Morgan...-You-Vs-PCGS

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Someone took this in the back alley and beat it up. AU details
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Another AU 53 1884-S Morgan dollar!

There are literally thousands of near-miss AU 84-S dollars out in coinland just like it. Many have been dipped and scrubbed to oblivion. The spread between AU and UNC is absolutely amazing!
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EF-45 details. Cleaned.
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I'll guess AU-55.
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AU-details, cleaned.
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Hint... this is NOT a details slab
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It may not be a "details" coin but it 1): is not uncirculated and 2) has been cleaned at one time!

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AU50, I think this coin won't make it any higher, probably was dipped at least once and probably a couple of times, the luster is just flat gone. Don't think it was "cleaned" per say, just dipped and over dipped, which strips the flow lines and luster off the surfaces.
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I agree with yof all, loOKs harshly cleaned but I guess pcgs didn't think so!?... I also have one in an AU details-ccleaned slab. I'll post the two side by side in a comparison thread later

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It's not unusual for an AU coin to be white so, unless there are identifying marks from a cleaning such as fine hairline scratches in same direction or a swirl pattern, a TPG will usually give it the benefit of the doubt.

I suspect this one is a coin that was briefly circulated, got a big banged up, and was dipped a few times to keep it white.
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I read somewhere a long time ago that the 84-S dollars were released and then recalled. This may account for why there are so many AU coins and very few true "unc" coins. For the life of me I have no idea where I read about it.
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That sound quite familiar. Think I read that somewhere too?
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The 1884-S Morgan dollar is a coin with tremendous spread in circulated grades and uncirculated. Mid AU coins are around $300 and Low end Uncirculated coins are $9K+
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