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1927 George V Parliment House Florin

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 Posted 10/21/2007  4:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Philip Smither to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
1927-George-V-Parliment-House-Florin

1927-George-V-Parliment-House-Florin

my whole family is from england but my great aunt got this years and years ago, no idea where from, to actually look at the coin it looks so near UNC (although I am far from an expert). It is a very nice coin, but would also like to know more about its mintage and anything else people could tell me
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 Posted 10/21/2007  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a 1927 Australian commemorative florin which celebrated the opening of Australia's new Parliament House in Canberra, depicted on the reverse. Minted in Melbourne.

92.5% silver, mintage 2 million, current catalogue value:

VG - $7: F - $12: VF - $22: XF - $55: aUnc - $120: Unc - $210: ChUnc - $450: Gem - $750: Proof $27,500
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 Posted 10/21/2007  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Philip Smither to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I can give my grandad an idea, what sort of grade does this look, he really loves this coin as I do?
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 Posted 10/21/2007  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blueczar1512 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have one of these coins which someone has attached a pin to so that you can wear it! no idea why they would want to
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 Posted 10/23/2007  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SueS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all,
These are my all time favorite reverse design used on Oz pre-decimal currency.
I was planning on submitting an image of this for an avatar.

I have an aUNC with clear fields and cartwheel luster. It brings sunshine on a rainy day. There are rarer Florins like the 1934 Melbourne Centenary that has an unique larger more detailed King portrait. And those of the times of depression and war.

A key indicator of abuse is the number of steps remaining on house the orbs and convex date panel. Wear on scrolls etc. Fields arn't large but those of the 'house' image if marked detract heavily.

The obverse is typical of old George V and graded by count of pearls centre diamond and bands of crown. Further wear indicated on Mo, sideburns and Kings breast jewels detail. Thats standard grading practice.

Hard to say with low res image.
The OP subject looks EF to aUNC to me. No sign of rim knock. Hard to see if any rim bur remains.

Bad handling practice has degraded from UNC as seen by lighter contact areas of obverse.
Obverse strike seems weak at lower portion of Kings portrait and looks a little bit off centre. This may just be in the photo.
A significant down side is that this coin has been cleaned that deems it upgradable.

Perhaps there is a way to dissolve the remaining black without eating the alloy from around the legend and devices, so it's consistent at least, then letting time restore some tone to an honest colour for it's age.
IMO even dark consistent tone is better than blast white any day.
Cleaning will never ever restore cartwheel lustre and in fact destroy whats left.


Worth $?
Mine to me AU $200. I'd replace it with a Gem for AU $1200.

Hold onto it. I share your Grandads passion for this type. He has priceless memories attached.

There is a history of Sterling Silver currency being used by the poor for jewelry stock here. Also use in 'trench art'.
I have some lovely buttons made from Aust. 1911 EF 3d pence. They have been dished and pierced like filigree around the Coat of Arms. A silver eye is silver soldered at rear.
Took a lot of fine work and time. A little bit rough in places, but nevertheless it's important cultural heritage.




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 Posted 10/23/2007  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Philip Smither to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can I ask how people can tell coins have been cleaned, coz I know for a fact this coin has not been polished with anything, the most it could have had happen to it is got water on it

My grandad got it when he was very young, and he has never cleaned it, nor anyone else who knows about this coin. and to look at the actual coin I can't see any cleaning.

i have a couple of new pics of it

1927-George-V-Parliment-House-Florin

1927-George-V-Parliment-House-Florin

These are a lot better, the other pics made it look strange
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 Posted 10/24/2007  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SueS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes much better image Phillip.
I wish I could do the same.. gotta learn.

First I should correct an error stated. The King portrait is unique on this 1927 and the 1934-35 Florins.
I still think looks a little on the weak side when looking at the base area of the bust.

This can happen and only today I received a cast slab item containing UNC pre-decimals with a Half Penny that shows heavy on one side and weak or die clash rendition on the other. ebay ref # 110167555005

I look at image and see inconsistent toning around legend and devices. Like as if those areas haven't been able to be scrubbed 'clean'[sadly of design features sometimes!].

Given the direct history you can draw upon Phillip, perhaps that toning characteristic is due to an inconsistent environmental barrier that has 'protected' from the natural oxidisation process. An oil film would do so.
I avoid touching silver because my skin type seems to send jewelry black very quicky.

Without doubt this is a lovely example at aUNC or possibly better in reality.
How many full steps can be seen with lens in the centre of the house?
My opinion can be a bit jaded from dealing on ebay.
I didn't want to offend in that posting by suggesting a $$$ value, but if this was up on ebay for safety I'd consider a bid 50 - 80% of CV at EF grade... but I'm on lookout for a Gem UNC.

Sorry mate. I find it crass to put $$$ value on prized items.

Whats room consensus on the issue of cleaning to 'blast white' degree and re-toning here?


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