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1946 Jefferson Nickel With A Die Clip

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 Posted 11/07/2007  10:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
A man traded this to me a the shop Saturday he was looking for a bu 1957 wheat so I got one of mine and made the trade

1946-Jefferson-Nickel-With-A-Die-Clip 1946-Jefferson-Nickel-With-A-Die-Clip

Do you think it was a fair trade
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 Posted 11/07/2007  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
why do you just say chip?
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How about single clip. If it has the Blakely effect on it it should be weaker on the edge 180 degrees from the clip. The clip happened while the planchet was being cut. Sometimes over lapping or improper feeding made the material to be cut already had a hole in the material or the edge of the material is inserted over the end of the material. With one punch/punches in the stock material another Punch might cut out previous cut out areas leaving a clip in the planchet. When the type one planchet is run through the setup mill for the rim, the area cut out (clip) allow the material to move 180 degrees opposite the clip. So if they have the Blakely effect it will be weak on the opposite edge of the rim. The larger the clip/clips the more it will be noticed. (Kind of like using a paper punch on paper. The first punch will be normal, if you punch too close to the punch next time, part of the second punch will be missing an area. Hope this is clear?)
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 Posted 11/07/2007  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looked real to me the gentleman he is always in on saturday
I know him well he is doing a set of wheat's for his grandson so always bring my Au/bu wheat just for him
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 Posted 11/07/2007  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amac

your coins is not a chip ! It is a Clipped planchet error.

you have mis labeled it as a Chip !

That is what the other poster was trying to tell you .

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 Posted 11/07/2007  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin 44, you did fine.
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I taded for it
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thans MM
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 Posted 11/08/2007  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice clip!
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The proper terminology is that the coin was struck on an incomplete planchet. The blank was improperly cut from a coinage strip. It then went through the upsetting mill and at that point it became an incomplete planchet. It was then struck into a coin.
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 Posted 11/08/2007  02:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The RedBook calls them clipped planchets and incomplete coins .

Thanks for the correction !
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There are still some areas where the RedBook needs to catch up:-)
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And it is RBIs not RBI as in the politically correct world of today. I just cannot stomach it when I hear them say "he drove in three RBI". Oh, yea, lets not forget penny vs cents.

Sorry guys, just had my third cup of coffee and it is effecting me.

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 Posted 11/08/2007  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well said my friend Jim
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I often take any opportunity that becomes available to explain newer terms. As more is learned about the process of how errors occur, terminology comes along that helps to explain things a little better.

This thread for example is a great chance to teach about incomplete planchets and the fact that the planchet is incomplete before the coin is ever in the coining press.

Many people think that based upon the term "clip" that the coin has the "clip" occur at the time the coin is struck or by some part of the minting process that happens after the coin is struck.

While we are on it, I lived in a place in PA where the plural form of words was rarely used and it drove me nuts.

People would by 15 gallon of gas or drive 30 mile to the nearest Wal-mart. They would also leave articles out of a sentence. A and The didn't exist.

They drove bus and rode bike. ARRRGGGHHH! :-)

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Ok now answer my questions on the 70-S and I will be happy !

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