3 Fake Coins...?

Thanks Biokemist6,
yes, I too think that is a good reproduction... I have read much about this coin, and it seems to be a very good replica. Just I have no idea how much I could ask for it... What do You think..?
I thought not more than 4 dollars... sorry if I may look venal, but I'm going to sell my collection that's around 150 coins, and I only miss a few evaluations...
I also wait curiously for opinions about the other coins, that I don't know so well as this one...

Oh great, so now I know what is that (value=zero)!
Thanks Coinworldtv!

Looks like this one: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21531.html

Well, so in order of "identification" the 3 coins should be:

1- 1861 Confederate States of America Half Dollar (silver)
2- gold ducat of Emperor Francis Stephen
3- Italian-States-Naples-Sicily-Silver-120-Grana-1859-NGC-MS62

But since the all 3 are attracted by magnet, they are obviously replicas.
Now the question is: since I'm going to sell them together with a collection of other 150 coins, how much could be the value of these 3 copies..?

:) lol

Hello Elbarto - There are a few folks on this forum that collect older counterfeits. I have been collecting counterfeits since 1960. As John alluded to - we produced a book devoted to just one type of counterfeit coin last year. I plan a second one in the near future.

There are different kinds of fakes. Some are valuable.

A counterfeit is a coin made to circulate as money alongside genuine coins. These are usually the most valuable type especially when the coins were made a couple hundred years ago.

A numismatic forgery is a fake made to fool collectors. These are usually the least valuable type especially the varieties made in the past 50 years. There is some market for older numismatic forgeries but it lags behind the counterfeit market.

There are other types as well that fall in between like replicas and copies made as souvenirs.

The value of any fake will be tied to the number of collectors interested in the type.

I agree that the least valuable of the three is the ducat - it is a very common item originally made as jewelry or play money. They are NOT deceptive at all. I would say 10 - 25 cents is an average value.

The Italian coin is a typical Numismatic forgery meant to be sold to unsuspecting collectors. It is the type made in the past 50 years. The type typically sell for anywhere between $5 and $15 but this coin is not great looking so $5 is much more likely.

As John points out the Confederate replica may be quite valuable. I have not yet unpacked my reference material for the restrike and replica copies of this coin so I have no notes to work from. However based on what it looks like (tinned or silver plated copper - which should NOT be magnetic) it may date to 1880 to 1900 or so. In that case John's offer of $100 may actually be low. However, if the coin is from the 1950s made in a somewhat different way it would be a $30 item.

How is the confederate piece edged? Smooth, seamed, reeded or rough ground? What does it weigh? Were you serious that it was magnetic?

I have located other photos of the 1861 coin in a variety of grades none of which shows the color change that is clearly present on your example. Early examples would be tinned or silvered copper which is not magnetic. There are very few early counterfeits that are normally magnetic - so unless something else surfaces the $30 estimate is an upper limit of the value at least for me.