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2005 LMC DDR?

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I didn't see it listed so wondering if this is a well place gouge. Opinions please!! Thanks.

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Rackster! You sure know how to bring a tough one to the table. I think it might be a die gouge.
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LOL - Hi Kid! Yes...I seem to be in an odd flow of things of late. The curious thing here is that I don't normally look for this variety but the recent CWRs I am searching have a number of high grade Zincolns - so I was inclined to flip. Since I don't hunt these, I'm hoping folks with experience can give me an eye with this one.

PS - many of these look like gouges, but with such regularity I suspect that they are indeed DDRs. Maybe this one is too.
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Please Help me here?nI am too new at the identification part of error coins...So I hope I don't embarrass myself too much...Here it goes.....
Where is the Error? for real ss I am like embarrassed now but want to know
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Hi Joann - to CCF!

Don't be embarrassed in the slightest; it all starts somewhere and this is the safest site for coin hobbyists to come to learn and share.

In this forum, members post finds and ask questions regarding error and variety coins that they come across. When it comes to the Lincoln Cent series, there are a number of variety coins to search for; doubled dies, transitional designs, RPMs, etc. There are many things to look for. For the coin I posted here (a 2005 LMC), there are a number of doubled dies of the reverse. Coppercoins lists a number of them along with the die markers you can use to specifically ID a coin. Unfortunately, I did not see one for this. If you look just below knee level on the right column you'll find a small anomaly of some kind. It might be one of the varieties listed at Coppercoins (if I made a mistake), possibly a new DDR variety, or just a well placed gouge in the die that left the small 'witness mark'. As I mentioned, this isn't normally a variety I look for, so I'm hoping that someone who specializes on this variety can give me an assist. It's what makes this forum special; members helping members.

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Joann - here is another link to explore: http://www.coppercoins.com/advsearch.php

This link brings you to an advanced search engine at Coppercoins. You can plug in the 2005 date to see what the engine returns. Mine is a Philadelphia minted coin.
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Looks like a die chip to me.....
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There are a bunch of 2005s in this CRH event, all in uncirculated condition. Here's another...

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...and another...

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I think it is. I have even seen them with two bars that are a little on angle.
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Hi John - thanks for stopping by...I assumed you had a few from this date and could comment. I think I'll have to go back over the rolls where I ignored the 2005s. These three popped up pretty close to each other (perhaps over 5 rolls). Given their condition, it makes it worthwhile.

Are you sitting on some that don't line up with Coppercoins for this date?
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They are doubled dies. Although very minor, they are caused when the hub starts to squeeze and the die/hub is slightly out of alignment, but snaps into the proper position. The movement is recorded in that area and the rest of the design is removed. The mark from a column on the hub is left because it is set into an area that is set deeper than the fields should be. (This happens a lot on the columns bays and sometimes on the EPU. But mostly on the central areas the single squeeze dies.
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Hi Coop - thanks for the explanation. I was wondering what contributed to this effect. I don't normally check for these, but this lot of CWRs is low on LWCs but chock full of uncirculated dates (2005 being one of them). So, I'm entertaining myself with these varieties.

Thanks again folks! I'll post any others I might find for the balance of the lot.
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I have 4 rolls of un-listed ones on my desk.
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I thought it was too rack-I found a couple these that were-one I know was confirmed by coop and looked very similar just different size-I got to check the years tomorrow to see if one is the 2005...looks very similar from what I remember...
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Are you sitting on some that don't line up with Coppercoins for this date?

Yes Kevin I am. I have a lot of the bar on columns and wavy steps as well as trail dies that are not listed.
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