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Is a fire resistant gun safe good for safely storing coins against theft?

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Yes.
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especially if it's mounted to a wall/floor....and hidden.
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Yup. Got one myself. Just make sure to bolt it down and hide well.
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Yes , but not a used gun save, it may still have gun oil in it.
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NO. But then again many things play a factor. Guns safes are good for keeping guns out of the hands of kids...keeping thieves out however is a different story. I could be into your average gun safe and out faster then the time it would take you to walk your dog.
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My gun safe is 5' tall 3" walls and 8 - 1" bolts on the door. Not saying you can't get into it but I don't think it's that easy.
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Just remember, and as you said, fire resistant. Not much if really fire proof. For example if in a fire your safe gets hot, anything plastic will melt all over your coins. Anything cardboard or paper too will get hot. Maybe not burn but will get really a big mess and again all over your coins. And too anything else inside too may well be effected by the heat such as your coins. Your safe eventually becomes an oven so the heat stays and becomes even more intense.
And as to being safe. Guess what you would do if a crook had a gun to you or your family's heads. That safe would open fast.
One of my neighbors had his safe taken out of his home although it was bolted down. Criminals are sort of well prepared.
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Guns are illegal.
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A good friend of mine had a large fireproof gun safe. HE deployed to Afghanistan and when he came home he could not remember the combo. My uncle used to work for Stanley locksmiths said he could get it open but could take a while to crack t he lock. I told him we were getting a new safe anyway, he said "Oh, then just hit the combo dial with a big hammer." I laid the $1200 safe on its back, and cracked the center of the dial with a sledge hammer. One hit the combo lock pushed throught the door and the rods retracted. Door literally jumped open from the shock of the hit.
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With any 'safe' discussion, there are many variables to consider. But a few good ground rules to start with are:

1. You get what you pay for, so don't buy a $500 safe from a big-box retailer if you think you're going to keep crooks out. Buy the best safe you can afford and consider what you're protecting when you do so.
2. Bolt it down, to a slab if possible.
3. Don't advertise that you have a safe, and keep it out of sight
4. Consider that you'll have a very high density of valuables in one spot. The first rule of investment is diversifying, so you should probably consider that when planning a 'safe' strategy.
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An acetylene torch will cut the side open without much damage to anything inside. Its portable and can be carried and used by only one man. A gun safe is good to keep kids out, but a thief is a different story. I have a nice size gun safe comparable if not larger then the one mcshilling mentioned and was torn open with ease by a jackhammer at my store. I will take pictures when I get the chance. I now use that as a decoy safe. Its about 800 pounds. I added a round major jewelry safe which weighs almost 4 times that and is much much more ideal.
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was torn open with ease by a jackhammer at my store


and no one heard this
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I KNOW RIGHT! It was just days after the safe was put in the store. Only 3 other stores in the plaza. We think it was someone from one of the other stores. We upgraded to the round major, Added HD cameras, and security system. Good thing for insurance! If it happens again, I told my partner were going to put a hidden live electric wire to it and see what happens next time someone breaks in and tries to touch it. Whenever it needs to be opened you we can just switch the breaker. My only worry is that one of us forget to switch the breaker lol
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Keep in mind that most home burglaries are less than 3 minutes in/out (moment of opportunity). In my neighborhood, almost everyone has home security systems and mine, even disabled, will alert authorities. Our Deputies are in our area quick..within minutes. Last time my alarm went off, I had them surrounding my house in less than 5 minutes.
My neighbor keeps his safe in his garage with a cardboard box over it (small safe) and boxes all around it and on top of it. You'd never know.


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Thanks all ,lots to think about.
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