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George V Grading Presentation - Help

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I am going to be doing a presentation to my coin club in early May on the grading of King George V coins (1912-1936) in circulated grades - VG to EF.

What I am hoping for is a picture that I can modify or a group of pictures that will show the changes to the king's crown that are tell tale features of each grade.

These I would print out and then discuss with the group what to look for and have a handout as well.

Do you have any experience with this type of presentation and do you have any pictures that I could use whether hand drawn or actual?

Thanks for your help with this.

Any tips on presentation would be appreciated. I have maybe 15-20 min. total to educate them.

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You will find this book very useful.

http://www.colonialacres.com/produc...ised-edition
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Thanks kuh - helpful to me as well.
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If you can get an old copy of Coin Year Book, when it was published annually by the long-defunct Coin Monthly Magazine in the 1970s and 1980s, they had grading guides for all monarchs from Victoria to Elizabeth II. British coins, of course.
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JimmyD

For someone like me who knows next to nothing about grading and identifying strike styles I found the link you posted very informative. Thanks!

Ray
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Not a problem Agaupt.
That's what this forum is about, sharing our knowledge.
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I remember a site called coinnoisseur (I hope I spelled that right) where there are pics of coins of different grades but I can't find it anymore. Does anyone know what happened to it?
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JimmyD's link on grading is one of the best .IMO..
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http://www.canadiancoin.com/grading/intro.htm

is an article on grading, written by Tom Becker.
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That site is still around. The reason I didn't recommend it
is that Colhand1 asked for something that showed the differences in the crown of George V.
The Coinoisseur (with one n) site shows all the Monarchs and doesn't isolate the crown.


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Colhand, you'll need to consider what grading looks like across the different denominations for a couple of reasons.

First, a VF George V nick, is a lot different than a VF George V cent, just due to the relative hardness of the nickle planchet vs the bronze one and the original strike.

Second, since denominational dies are all from different punches, the strength of design at the punch, the design transfer to a working die, and then on to a coin will be different as well. Weak strikes are often mistaken for wear.

I'm not trying to complicate your task, just offering up a couple of points for consideration.

The book SPP recommended in his first post is very helpful at the different denomination high points etc.
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It keeps saying server not found when I go to the coinoisseur site. Is it just me?
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The site is no longer around unfortunately..... Probably the person that set up the site and the domain hasn't bothered to renew the domain name...

at coins and canada there is a link in the forum there to a "domain cache" which has all the information and pictures ... I don't know if copying the URL here will work but if it doesn't you can message me and I'll e-mail it to you..

http://web.archive.org/web/20130902115503/http://coinoisseur.com/GradingCoins.html
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Thanks to everyone for giving me suggestions and information that I will be able to use during my presentation. In my club, I am the president and the only one that has a real interest in Canadian coins. So it will be informative to them and will it kick off their interest in building a collection, probably not. No one else in the club will step up and give a presentation so they will have to listen to what I am interested in.

I picked this series as I see it as the easiest to identify the circulated grades.

I wish a bunch of them do find this fascinating as that will create new demand for the coins that I put up in the silent auction!
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