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Opened A Roll Of 60-D Lincolns And Have A Few Questions

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 Posted 12/01/2007  03:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Budman2K to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Basically I didn't find anything worthwhile. Here are some pics of what I did find though. What is up with the first pic, post mint on the "9" or not? Also I found 5 with the same die chip(correct me if I'm wrong) on the bottom of the "R", and is the last pic a worn die or mech. doubling? Thanks.
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 Posted 12/01/2007  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Bud, first welcome to the forum.

Now to answer your questions, yup, yup and aaaaa yup.

Jim
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 Posted 12/01/2007  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
there are tons of rpms for this date and MM
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 Posted 12/01/2007  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the old days, they used to call those "skirted R" cents:-) It's a common place for a die chip to develop. I would definitely , as hinted, check for RPMs:-)
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 Posted 12/01/2007  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first image the mark on the 9 is a bag mark. Two through Six are a die break that is common for this year. The break starts out small, then enlarging to the size it is. Seems like when the deteration of the die reaches the point where the die is still harden, it quits spreading for a while. I feel most of the die crack/chip/break progression happens after one or more die clashes. On the wheat Cents the stalks field out line touches the area and from the B & R. Making the BIE Cents and the skirted R as B mentioned.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ie_Clash.jpg
But your coin is a Memorial cent. But again I feel the die clashes do play a factor in weakening the die making cracks/chips/breaks as the die is separation deeper in the die itself with an eroding away where the crack starts rubbing together.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...RIAL_REV.jpg
When looking at column # 1 you see where the outlines of the devices would collide during a die clash. Cleanings make seem to remove the clash marks for a while, but continued clashes only make the die split deeper and the die deteriates more and more. This is common for normal use of the die and the die is not usually retired till it either gets too worn or till the die breaks fall off the die, making a few Cud coins before the operator notices that this has happened. With the out rim broke away it makes coins that are very collectible to Cud collectors. here is a few examples.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...coop/CUD.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...b_IMAGES.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...tuckyCud.jpg

So I would say your coin is normal in the sense that it happens a lot of the breaking of the letters/numbers on dies. The last image appears to be Machine Doubling. What to watch for a RPMs/doubled dies. This year has a lot of RPMs. Major and minor. But spotting them may be a nice find. Hope this helps.
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 Posted 12/01/2007  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Budman2K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the great info everyone. I will definitely look closer at the roll and see if I can find some rpm's. I have one more unopened roll of 60d I will be looking at also. I will let you know if I find anything. By the way, I have read on hear that it is a good idea to pick up a cheap doubled die coin and study it. I took the advice and picked up a DDO 1967 SMS Washington quarter FS-026.5 in an Anacs MS67 holder, it looks to be a very nice specimen. Studying it has really answered a lot of questions I had about true die doubling and what to look for. Thanks, Vinnie.
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