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Got this on ebay. Didn't think I would win. Says original unopened, they never closed them so someone outside the mint closed it. But I really hope the coins don't have carbon spots.  I got it for my Dansco 7070. Special thanks to jfransch. I hope to post pics when it arrives. I hate to cut the coins out but my dansco deserves the nice coins. The listing. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-PROOF-...p=true&rt=nc  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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I hope they are pristine for your 7070. I have purchased BLUE Ikes that had fingerprints all over them. But that was my own fault as the ebay listing only pictured the unopened envelopes. I won't make that mistake with BLUE Ikes again. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Who knows? Maybe you'll have some killer toners in there!
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Quote: Maybe you'll have some killer toners in there!  If I do I will be so happy.  And if bad ones, 
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Tag... can't wait to see the pics!
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I just had a thought. What if the seller enclosed the coins because they were ugly?
Edited by SilverStackerKid 04/12/2015 02:27 am
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I would have asked for a pic of the envelope to make sure that it really is sealed. Hope it turns out well for you!  
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Quote: I hate to cut the coins out but my dansco deserves the nice coins. Please do. It helps raise the value of sets that people don't break up. Until, of course, you can't afford one and then everybody who broke them up is a criminal. The whole purpose of what we're doing here is to preserve these for the future. I'm not sure whether a Proof Set constitutes something which should be preserved, at least outside my own heart. Inside, in the place where I hold opinions I shouldn't share, I think it's shortsighted and self-centered.
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Quote: Please do. It helps raise the value of sets that people don't break up. Until, of course, you can't afford one and then everybody who broke them up is a criminal. Buy the coins, not the holder 
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Quote: Buy the coins, not the holder
Touche.  I'm conflicted on it, but let me ask you this: if the set were dated 1952, would you crack it? And what's the difference if so many people have cracked theirs that there's only 100,000 or so complete sets left of the date you have? I have the weirdest sense of deja vu about this topic.
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What if it were an 1862 in original packaging? Darn few of those around. And why? Because they were all broken up.
John J Pittman had an original 1843 proof set in the original holder. One of only two such sets known. Here a few years ago the owner took the three gold coins out of the set, had them slabbed and sold them. Now there is only one original set left.
The King of Siam Presentaion proof set managed to remain to remain almost completely intact from 1834 to the 1990's. Then the coins were removed from the original presentation case and slabbed. Today that historic artifact is now just an empty case and a bunch of individual slabbed coins. Yes the coins are impressive, but to me much less so than when they part of the original presentation gift given to the King so may years ago when the US was making it's first steps out onto the world stage.
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I hope the set is a nice ... having some proofs in your 7070, I think, is a nice look.
Hope it is ok to post my thoughts.
I understand there is both opinions of breaking or not not breaking sets.
Some modern albums have ports/holes for proof coins. Many times breaking proofs sets is the cheapest way to fill those albums.
Some of the sets I have purchases and broke open. Had a note inside, that said ..something like, "this packaging is not for long term storage"
Not all modern proof sets hold up in OGP. I have seen 1955 and older sets, the ones that came is the box, that the coins were is very bad shape. IMO .. a 1952 and older, sets should not left in the box. They should be put into ait-tite holders ... or capital holder .. even slabs .. to preserve the condition of the coins. The 55 to 64 cello sets are not really that much better for keeping the coins nice.
It may come down to .. are you collecting the coins .. or the package.
I do think the reason there are some really nice cameo proof Franklins in slabs today .. is because they were cherry picked from proof sets .. and being in slabs, they hold up better than being left in box or cello.
Also .. think about ... if you wanted a nice set of 1942 proof coins .. you might be able to find a original set. And you might pay more because it is the original coins in the original package. But all the coins might not be ..in the same grade.
The other approach, go out and purchase the same quality or grade for each 1942 proof coin.
Who would have the better set of coins ..
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Quote: Then the coins were removed from the original presentation case and slabbed. Today that historic artifact is now just an empty case and a bunch of individual slabbed coins. If I expressed my true opinion about that one, the Bad Word Filter would implode and Bobby would ban me.
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Same. Lol. That is crazy how they broke that apart. And I agree with GR58, except with breaking out ALL of the pre 1952 proof sets.
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Edited by Cascade 04/12/2015 1:19 pm
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Quote:Collectors have long valued the Morgan silver dollars released in the 1970s by the Government  I think they meant 1870. Interesting read though. Edit, ok, do they mean the government was hoarding them and released the gsa dollars in 1970? Or do they mean collectors like 1870's morgans?
Edited by SilverStackerKid 04/12/2015 1:22 pm
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