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Grade On A Possible 1929 'High 9' Cent Headed For ICCS

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Greetings,

For your consideration is this 1929 cent that may or may not be a 'High 9'. Do we think it's a 'High 9' and how do we believe it will grade? Thanks for looking.

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 Posted 04/14/2015  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS64. Can't see the color.

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MS-63, not sure if it's a 'high' 9 or not, the tail of the nine is usually up higher than that but, it may be the way the picture was taken.
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Not convinced that it is a "High 9", at least not the "High, Far 9" that we are used to seeing...
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Very nice rims with a touch of wire edging in the top of the reverse..


The drawn lines certainly make you think about it..

..and in my Ch example..the last 9 is much lower that this one.

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The visual alignment really depends if the original picture was taken completely flat. I think the OP's picture was taken at a slight angle (going by the focused numbers and the less focused dot above). I think that's why the one I posted with lines looks "nor here nor there". I think we would need a straight on picture to remove any illusion.
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Included below is another image of the possible High 9 along with an image of a random 1929 from my stock. Hopefully these will be more helpful.

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The top pic "in the above 2 photos" certainly has a higher 9 than the bottom pic....very nice..!!
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I am still not convinced yours the "High 9" (remember that the 9 has been observed to be in at least three positions - yours is what I would call the "Medium-High 9").

Here is mine, for comparison...

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I'm not seeing much in the way of a conclusive difference between yours and mine.
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Accounting for the die wear and flatness of the OP's cent at the bottom of the tail,..I would still say "yes" it's a high nine.
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With the' highest' of the high 9 strikes, the lower tip of the nine is rounded (blunt). In the others, it appears pointed (sharp)...
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Well, it's definitively higher than my random 1929. We'll see if ICCS puts 'High 9' on the ticket, which I believe the coin deserves. Any other grade opinions? I'm out of my element with this series.
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I think it would grade MS64 as well. I like it a lot!

nice one
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This is one of those dates that really needs a good die study... There obviously are more than two digit locations for the last 9, and confusion reigns, just like the 1896 Far 6 large cent.
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"confusion reigns" that sums up why I don't collect varieties....interesting to see the debate though
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