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My 1904-O VAM 41 "Engraved Neck"

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 Posted 04/19/2015  12:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here she is SD... There's not much else going on with the obverse but there are pickups on the reverse not listed I have noticed...
a threadlike line on eagles right wing at 7 & 8 feathers from bottom, slight doubling of tail feathers, doubled denticles and fine letter cracks hard to see sans loupe. Maybe a good one for VW update? Have you come across any auction result photos of 41's?

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 Posted 04/19/2015  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The auction results may not give you an indication of its desirability. Only a few 1904-O slabs are VAM attributed. They may appear more frequently in collections than in general trade simply because it is one of the easier VAMs to attribute.
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But to address your question.
4-11-12 TT NGC 62
5-12 13 TT NGC 65
8-18-13 HA NGC 64
May be able to help more later.
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1904-O VAM-4B "Rusty Fish Hook" ?
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Could I ask whats going on? I may be able to help, but would like to know why the sudden interest in auction photos. Beautiful coin by the way Cascade.
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Sorry chute, ive been busy today with a huge collection I am now suddenly the custodian of... see my other thread. Auction photo question was because I thought maybe the 41 is seldom seen and that's why the vw listing is so vague. If that was the case I thought mine could be good to update the 41 page.
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I'm not sure, but if you contact Mitch at VAMworld, he could tell you if he needs pictures. Here's one that just ended.


http://www.greatcollections.com/Coi...-MS-63-Toned br /
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Could I ask whats going on? I may be able to help, but would like to know why the sudden interest in auction photos.


Only looking for attributed VAM-41's, by way of forming opinion on rarity and value. I don't figure this one to be value-added.

Cascade, spend the money on John for a Varslab and ask him to shoot whatever he feels appropriate for pickups and he'll arrange to get them in place. He is, if anything, a better photographer than me and will be easily able to meet the standard. Your images here are also up to the job, but he might find more/choose better priorities. You've picked excellent bespoke pickups for the VAM, and this coin will remove VAM-41 from the "needs more research" pile forever.

One coin at a time. That's how we're going to get there.
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Well thats cool, that I can contribute to the community being so relatively new to it... I was just packing up a couple to send to john so I'll add this one to it. Can you give him a poke to read this thread and be expecting it this week. Thanks SD
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 Posted 04/19/2015  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chute... is that a 41 in your link?
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 Posted 04/19/2015  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Can you give him a poke to read this thread and be expecting it this week.


Nothing stopping you from doing that.
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Yes, that thread is of a VAM 41. I am usually confused, so this time is no different. Now I see there are two issues. As for the rarity, I would say it is less common than average but not rare. The other issue is pictures. Now I get it.
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If I can be of service, I would be happy to do so. I'm just starting on the details, and will take requests. LFCS available in the raw for direct email if that helps.


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Cmcart, 4B images are available here.

http://www.vamworld.com/1904-O+VAM-4B
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 Posted 04/20/2015  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cascade, yes the auction link is to a VAM-41.
http://www.greatcollections.com/Coi...-MS-63-Toned
Sometimes it is more difficult to attribute a coin from an auction picture than when in hand. (A topic for another time.)
But compare this photo with that of the auction coin, and you will see why I like lots of pictures.
Sorry John1 if this is the sort of "too many pictures" you were talking about.


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 Posted 04/20/2015  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add messydesk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fortunately, 1904-O has been studied in depth by Alan Scott, who produced a guide to this date, so it should not be difficult to confirm attribution on this one. He shows many pick-up points in his guides, including fine scratches and die cracks on both sides of the coin.
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