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 Posted 06/05/2015  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That one on the left looks excellent from overall exposure perspective, though probably a little dark near T of CENT but manageable. The one on right is way over-exposed, consistent with the +1EV setting. Both are out of focus, especially the right one. How are you critically focusing?

Once you fix the focus problem, the one on the left is what I would consider "good raw material". A bit of post-processing and it will look much better. I took the liberty of doing some adjustments:

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Because it was out of focus, this is sharpened more than I would normally do, but you get the idea.
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 Posted 06/05/2015  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your telling me you took my pic and did that to it / wow

So what am I doing wrong? or is it after I take the pic?

Sharpness was set at 0
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 Posted 06/05/2015  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure, less than 1 minute with DPP, which is actually not all that capable of an editor. 2 minutes with LR and it would look even better. That's what I am saying about "raw material". But your image has a problem with sharpness likely due to focus. How did you critically focus this shot?
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 Posted 06/05/2015  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, you say the lights are at 11 and 1 o'clock, but there is a shadow bottom left that looks like the light is blocking the image. The light is also seeming to come from the bottom left in the image, around 7:00...

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 Posted 06/05/2015  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Focus was done on screen by either lowering the camera and raising the bed. I guess I will have too pay more attention.

The light on the left side is the one we are looking at. The one on the right was no problem but that left one no matter what I did I couldn't get that shadow out.

What sharpness setting should I be using?
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 Posted 06/05/2015  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mcshilling hello just wondering is there something at the bottom of your coin reflecting light. back unto your coin its like there is light coming from 3 directions. but you sure are close to being really excellent. I like what I see you are getting the coin very close to its original appearance.
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 Posted 06/05/2015  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those last 2 pics are mine but Ray has touch them up.
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Are you using the full-screen mode, or the zoom magnifier mode? Full-screen mode is blurry, so it is very difficult to focus. The zoom magnifier mode is full-sharpness and makes focusing much easier.

So is the shadow from the light? Was the light at 7 o'clock?

I recommend sharpening of 0 in-camera and only sharpening after you downsize, but some disagree with that flow...
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I was using full screen will go to zoom next.

Lights are at 11 and 1 o'clock, the 11 o'clock one was giving me the shadow.
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 Posted 06/05/2015  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got my AC adapter today, order yesterday about 11AM and didn't think it would show till Monday, nice surprise and right to my door.
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 Posted 06/06/2015  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your lights are at 11 and 1 then rocky is right and you're somehow getting additional light coming in from 7. Reflection? Another room light maybe? It's actually causing more highlighting on the coin than your 11 and 1 lights!
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 Posted 06/06/2015  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The copy stand is on the right of the monitor (will get a pic later) they almost touch, would this be the problem?
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 Posted 06/06/2015  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be. You will need to figure out if the monitor is shining on the coin and perhaps put up a piece of black paper or cloth between them to block the unwanted light.
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 Posted 06/06/2015  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The copy stand is on the right of the monitor (will get a pic later) they almost touch, would this be the problem?


I don't see how the features pointed out on your image are not caused by the 11:00 light. Note the thin dark line going through the middle of the left side of the C, the N and the shield. That's cause by a high light shining downward on the coin from 11:00 - if it were light shining from 7:00 those dark lines would not be there. There's no reflected light here.

And keep in mind, when you're hitting the subject from two lighting angles at once there will be light and dark areas which are only relative - only dark because something else is brighter, not dark because they're not illuminated enough.
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The most telling feature is the C of CENT, since it is rounded and near the center of the coin (at least left/right). Here's an expanded crop of the C, annotated with light directions:

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The rays annotated with "7" are creating the brightest highlights, on the surfaces facing down/left, so the light could not be coming from either 11 or 1. Next brightest highlights are hitting the top facing surfaces consistent with "11" or possibly "12". The annotation "1" shows where there SHOULD BE highlights from a light at "1", but those highlights are missing.

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