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1880-O Morgan

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I think PCGS may have got this one wrong so I want to see what everybody else thinks before I consider resubmitting. Do TPG's take a way from the overall grade for the toning? The toning is what attracted me to it. Anyway... I would love to hear your opinions.

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The toning, while minimal, has good eye appeal. What gets me is that the reverse looks like an Extremely well struck O but the obverse looks very weak. I'm guessing the TPG limited it to a 64 because of the weak obverse regardless of how clean it is
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The obverse strike is what will hold this one back.
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Weak hair by her ear, weak lower hair by neck, weak flowers. What do you expect New Orleans coins were crap for strikes they just churned them out with no pride. If you see a good New Orleans coins with good strike buy it.

Oh and I'd grade ms63/64 range. With s better strike I'd guess 65
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I thought I would add the sellers pics as well since my photography skills are just okay on a good day.

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My guess they saw this a slightly circulated Morgan and gave it an AU-58. There are many examples of this date that went into circulation and soon after went back into storage due to an over-abundance of dollars in circulation. This is one of the date/mm Morgans that you need to be real careful when purchasing raw because of this. An MS64 example yields in excess of $1k and MS65 is moon money.
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I was afraid you had some light bleaching going on in your first pics but whoa those almost look like 2 totally different coins. I agree with d700 with it being a definite slider depending on in hand look and graders mood. Definatly not 64, most likely not even 63. I think it would unfortunately top at 62 due to the prominent cheek slashes if the grader sees no signs of circulation
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I would be in the MS-62 camp on this one.
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MS-63
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The seller photos appear to show the coin more accurately.

There seems to be enough rub on the cheek and in the fields to warrant an AU-58 grade. If PCGS decided to slide it to mint state it should go no higher than MS-62.
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MS-63.
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