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1904-O Quarter On Cracked Planchet

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I think I got this in some bullion a few years ago! Set it aside and just rediscovered it. Interesting wear pattern due to the crack. It took me a second to figure this one out because at first I thought it was a worn down Cud.

The crack is toward the bottom of the photo on the edge shot. It is pretty tough to see even in hand.

Thanks for looking!

Mark

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Sorry, I had to rotate them to be able to look at them.

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Let's noodle, for a moment, why a cracked planchet (and it's obviously cracked) can kill a strike when it's squeezed equally between two dies at 150-some tons of pressure. That would most assuredly even out any displacement, at least during the moment of strike.

So did it exhibit some sort of springlike behavior after the strike and offset again? That would explain the wear pattern.
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I was thinking that it must have had some level of displacement/springiness from the strike to create that wear pattern. I am outta ideas as to how else it could have occurred. I don't think there was too much displacement though, but on a coin this well worn I think it highlights it more than would be otherwise seen.

Thanks for the rotation correction too! My tablet was giving me issues.
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It sort of looks like there was a Cud on the reverse where a flake of the reverse die came off where the U in quarter should be but, then why is that area displaced almost as much on the obverse and appearing thicker than on the other side of the crack in the planchet? Very unusual and no doubt a mint caused anomaly. Definitely a conversation piece worth keeping.
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Here's where it gets funny for me:

An offset certainly explains the wear - obverse being (if laid flat) higher toward the bottom and the corresponding areas of the reverse higher on the other side of the crack. Both faces would have to offset, to have a high side. But that creates a rim offset - obviously - which isn't seen here. OK, fine, it wore down in circulation even with the rest.

But if the offset parts of the rim wore to the much grater extent necessary here - consider, the "lower" areas on each face next to the crack barely wore at all - how does the thickness of the rim not change?

And where's the offset? The wear says it's plainly still there. The high sides are still high - the image is shadowing in the right areas to prove that.

Something just doesn't add up here and I can't decide what that is.
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