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Is This 1954 Roosevelt Dime A Proof Strike?

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Please can someone tell me if this a proof strike on this Roosie?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Roosev...em51d0fc08f9


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Looks proof. Not all proofs are created equal, some have very little mirroring and no cameo
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I believe it's a proof that's been around the corner a few times In the raw.
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A coin from those people which ends without a bid sends a strong signal indeed.
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Not a fan of that coin. Surface looks odd. Dave is right, a GSC coin without a bid? ..'nuf said.
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Nothing wrong with that piece a solid proof with no issues.
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With those pictures, frankly I can't tell.
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Nothing wrong with that piece a solid proof with no issues.


Might be a solid proof, but is it a GEM as seller states? GSC is well known on this site for poor photography practices and shill bidding.

Yes the 1954 proofs aren't like todays proofs, but not worth taking a chance here imo.
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Its a proof. I see nothing wrong with it. You can argue about their pics all you want, but I have never seen them flat out lie about a coin.
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OK, for a novice like me (and others) can you please briefly explain how you can tell it's a proof. Thanks. Ed

I have seen them flat out lie about a coin, but another story for another day.
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Although the pic is not the best the coin is extremely well struck, has high square rims and polished reflective surfaces. Most proofs of this mid 1950s era are not even close in appearance to today's reflective ultra cameo coins. Indeed most are not Cameo in appearance at all. One of the reasons that Cameos of the era are highly prized. After reading this post I checked the one in our 1954 set we have on ebay, and also the other two sets we have in stock. All three dimes are non cameo and are highly reflective. I do not think the seller of the coin in question is trying to deceive at all.
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I am interested in the Great Southern Coin discussion here.

I have purchased a few coins off them, not many, nothing special, all at what I feel are good prices.


Their pictures aren't the best representation of a coin. I'd be curious to here comments on what they are doing photographically that hides defects and what they should be doing. I figure if I understand this I will be able to avoid bad purchases on ebay.

Very interested in the shill bidding conversation too. First I heard that.


As for the coin going without bid, I can see that with a Rosie dime with a starting bid of $10. When they were starting all coins at 99 cents last year it was possible to get some really good deals on some coins.

I would run their numbers and it just didn't make sense how they could sell a BU Merc for $4 delivered. At that low of price point shipping is just a killer. I have bought mainly BU Mercury dimes and Walker halves off these guys. Happy with my purchases.

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Pacificoin, thanks for the explanation. My eye is just not trained enough to see it. More practice is necessary. Interesting though how several of you can confidently see it's a problem free proof. I'm just not there yet.

As far as GSC goes, I'll defer to many previous threads on this issue. Just do a little searching on this site, or maybe start another thread, and you will come up with lots of info.
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Ed one problem a lot of numismatists have ,especially when starting out is being able to properly analyze and attribute coins that are starting to tone or are darkly toned. This is known as "seeing through toning". It is an art that few can truly master.This includes graders at the TPG s. One reason that a lot of collectors only want blast white coins. Try your own abilities and look at some coins toned lightly to darkly and see if you can master this skill. When you do it can pay off big time.
Another thing to try is when you are at a coin show or an LCS , look at the various U.S. Proof coins of the past eras and see just how they look. Never be afraid to ask questions as most are always willing to help out.
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