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1909-S VDB Genuine?

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I recently was reviewing my Lincoln Wheatear collection in an old Library of Coins album, which I hadn't looked at in quite some time, and thought I would scan a few for knowledgeable comments on this site.
The first one is my 1909S VDB. It looks like a die3 obverse with proper serrifs. The VDB on the reverse appear to have the proper slant and dots.
I know some will recomend having it slabbed, I don't like them and I would have to crack it out to put back in the album. I might think differently if I was about to sell it. Anyway, what do you think? Does it look okay.

1909-S-VDB--Genuine?

1909-S-VDB--Genuine?

1909-S-VDB--Genuine?

1909-S-VDB--Genuine?
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 Posted 05/31/2015  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks ok. The rim bothers me though.
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 Posted 05/31/2015  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's fine, Die #3 of only 4 known for this issue. Nice-looking XF. The edge scuff is hardly visible in actual size, I would guess, and it does not really bother me on such a clean-looking specimen.
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 Posted 05/31/2015  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice looking s vdb.
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 Posted 05/31/2015  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you see a die chip in the upper loop of the S? The MM is slightly suspect.

May have had an old cleaning. VF-25
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Looks good to me, VF-20
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Even though I am a "Buy the coin, not the slab" kind of guy I would suggest this gets slabbed for a couple reasons. First off it is a good way to protect the value of the coin by preserving it and preventing damage. Secondly it helps to verify the genuineness of the coin and thirdly there are enough people out there that will "buy the slab" and pay more for a properly slabbed coin.

While I don't buy slabbed coins as a rule (I don't have many coins valuable enough to warrant it) key dates like this would certainly be more desirable slabbed then in a book. I would put a Mint Token or placeholder in a slot to indicate ownership of that coin.
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n9jig, since he said he has no plans on selling it, at least at the moment, I don't think he should feel compelled to slab it as of now. You make a fair point in preserving the coin, but I think it will be fine in an album.
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Nice coin....

My preference would definitely be to submit it for grading...a few reasons...

1) by asking "genuine?" on a forum means you are unsure if it is genuine. Ten posters here could say yes but you will always have a bit of doubt...

2) As was mentioned previously it is a great way to protect a decent coin

3) determine an appropriate value for listing on an insurance policy...just in case

This type of coin is the original reason for the existence of TPG's...determine authenticity, assign a grade and protect the coin. The companies have since morphed into a beast that grades everything....this one is appropriate
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Send it in. I'll bet it comes back XF-40 without comment on the small edge nibble.
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Actually, the best reasons for slabbing a coin is for the next person (probably a family member when you die) or for a financial emergency.....or maybe when you get the upgrade itch.
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...Or for those of the growing collector population who choose to not learn to grade for themselves. : /

(I think you covered that in financial emergency and upgrade itch, and you're right. Just dropping my discontented Two Cents at the growing dependency on slabbed coins.)
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I appreciate the OP's want for the coin to fill his book, but a coin like this really needs to be slabbed. If it comes back as a fake then leave it in the book as a placeholder until a real one is obtained and slabbed.

For casual collectors like the OP and I slabbed coins kind of goes against the grain, but in a few instances like this the exception should be made.
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I see slight woodie striations going in them right directions and no apparent messing with the mm so I would say good
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Looks fine to me.

Slab it when it is convenient for you.

The slabbing will pay off when the coin gets marketed by you or your heirs.
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Looks good to me. Get it slabbed!
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