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Valued Member
Canada
495 Posts |
Wondering how many of the true collector types are out there these days and by that I mean the ones who collect coins- not slabs hoping for a big score. I have some family members and friends who only think of the values not the history and nostalgia of collecting. Its becoming too much of a money racket and slowly losing interest for this ol dude.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1049 Posts |
I like to think that my collection is more history based and not gem specific. Currently in all my coins which are probably over 4000 of assorted, all denominations there are 4 graded ones. The oldest dated 1718. There are also early to mid 1800 tokens US coinage, a few 1700's copper tokens. When researching some of the coins I find the history involved is at times an exciting read, also it's amazing how some coins history can bring you off on so many historical tangents. Cheers.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
I guess I would consider myself a true collector and not in it just for the money. It is nice to score under graded and underpriced coins on occasion but those are few and far between. Besides, I can't be in it for the money. I continually overpay for some coins and have yet to sell one.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5588 Posts |
I have thousands of coins that I collect ONLY for the history. I have, maybe, 3 graded coins that I have only because they wee part of lots I may have boughten. I think slabs are only for those who have very expensive, high-end stuff (for insurance) or those who have substantial collection with no realtives with any interest in them. Those folks with registry sets usually fir into one of the above 2 reasons. I, personally have absolutely no use for a TPG.
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Valued Member
50 Posts |
Value of coins has ALWAYS been about supply and demand, and rarity / quality - there's currently a glut of supply out there readily obtained and low demand in comparison - result is the value of most coins that are not ultra-rare or highest grades has dropped rather dramatically in recent years. As more and more of us oldtimers start to keel over and our lifetime collections hit ebay this will only exacerbate the matter further - and as well young people are not that interested in collecting shiny little pieces of metal anymore like we did when we were kids. So, we can continue to stick our heads in the sand and pretend we can't see the writing on the wall - or be accepting of the fact that what once was is no more - let's all have a big group hug for our coming losses  Gilles *** Staff Edit - Please do not post in all bold. ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1373 Posts |
I am proud to think of myself as a "true" collector. In all of my time in the hobby I have only bought four slabbed coins and they were only bought that way either because they were cheap or because they provided a level of proof for certain types. I use folders to store most of my coins and albums for the rest. I also actually TOUCH my coins; I figure if they have been touched for over one hundred years already that one more time won't destroy them.
I have two close friends who have both been in the 'hobby' much longer than I, but I don't view either of them as collectors. One guy has been saving coins since the 1960's and has a fantastic collection, but he will sell ANY of his coins at the drop of a hat if he can make a profit out of it. The second guy is just into silver coins, and will buy anything and keep them in a bucket until the price goes up again for him to sell them. (He recently just bought a collection for over $5,000 but hasn't looked at it for years/conditions/mint marks/etc.).
As for me, I don't plan on ever selling any of my collection. I do have some extra coins that I acquired (by mistake, buying better quality coins, or by buying a bulk batch to get some I needed) and I'd like to try and get some of my expense back for them, but that's about it. Oh, I also have a friend in Canada I trade coins with at face value.
I am somewhat happy to NOT know 'true collectors', as I would never be able to obtain any coins for myself from them.
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Moderator
 Canada
10458 Posts |
For me, it is not just the sake of collecting coins, it is the study of coins - numismatics. I like to find new things and I like to figure out why anomalies (varieties) and errors occur. I find it very gratifying not only to chase and collect a coin, but then to document it and write/publish an article on it, so that my research becomes a reference for a future generation of numismatists.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2543 Posts |
Quote: Wondering how many of the true collector types are out there these days and by that I mean the ones who collect coins- not slabs ........ Bobby and/or mods, please cancel my membership here at CCF, for the last 50yrs I thought that I was a true "coin collector" , since I own multiple collections of slabbed coins, apparently not. Well it was a good run while it lasted 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
"Chacon son gout"... people..
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Valued Member
United States
467 Posts |
What is the future of coin collecting you ask? Just ask any stamp collector.  I'm going to keep right on doing it though....
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
606 Posts |
I consider myself a collector. I purchased my first coin from a dealer in 1959. A couple of years before slabs. As my interests and my disposable income increased and TPG's came into existence,my collection grew to include slabs. Today my core collection includes all slabbed coins. So I guess I was a collector for 30yrs before I became a collector of slabs. As for the future of coin collecting goes. I think it is just fine. When I was attending coin club meetings and coin shows in the early 60's I was surrounded by old people. The same holds true today except I am one of them.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3049 Posts |
The process of slabbing coins is not what defines a collector who sole interest is profit. People use TPG's for the resale of a coin because of market trends....it's also a very responsible thing to do as it will help with the conservation of the coin for many years to come.. Coins may have lost a bit of their lustre especially from the hay days in the 80's.... There are many collections that are just coming to market that haven't seen the light of dy on years..... But I have a feeling that really nice silver and gold will always have a spot in a collectors eye. As for TPG's I can't blame them! That is just a good business model
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Valued Member
Canada
174 Posts |
I would consider myself as a new collecter, I have been collecting circulated disigned quarters cince I was 8 now I'm almost 16 and now my collection grew alot. for slabs I dont see the point of paying alot just for one coin that someone put a grade on, buy the coin not the grade. I personally love going through coin rolls, you get them at face value and you could get a coin you really needed. I guess I collect for the purpose of history of the changes of the coins through out the years, I didn't know large pennies existed until this year now I have 10 of them. Thats why I consider myself as a new collecter, I guess everyone could be considered new too, because we learn something new everyday.
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Moderator
 Australia
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It's a lament that I hear all too frequently from the brick-and-mortar coin dealers I regularly visit: that I am in the minority, as far as their customer profile is concerned. Most of them come in just to make a buck playing the market buying and selling, mostly "scrap silver" coins for scrap silver prices. The dealers like those customers coming around because it helps keep the doors open, but they'd much rather sell to more actual collectors who take an interest in actual coins. Quote: I have some family members and friends who only think of the values not the history and nostalgia of collecting. I still remember trying to talk to an old family friend about this. They've known me since I was a child and they've often gotten me some coins and coin-like gifts while they've been on holidays, but they still don't understand the mentality of a "true collector". They could not understand why I would not consider selling some of the coins that I own that happen to have gone up astonishingly in price since I bought them a decade or two ago. "But you could use the money to buy even more coins, couldn't you?" 
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1346 Posts |
I have a couple of fun collections: my 1946 birth year worldwide collection which is getting a bit pricy for needed items, or for upgrades to unc coins which some are seldom found. I also enjoy finding Cuds and laminations and die cracks. For this collection I am starting to purchase TPG for better items as I am tired of getting cleaned whizzed supposedly AU and BU coins. My latest venture is a worldwide type set pulled together from bulk lots of coins - 1/2 to 1 pound weight bags or by the hundreds. I put each in a cardboard flip, ID by country, denomination, years span of use and catalogue number. I purchase a lot every week - 10 days. It makes me feel like a kid some 60 years ago. While I understand the desire for slabbed silver morgans and slabbed cents in high MS values in all the different hues available and the like, I simply wanted to mention my two interests as alternatives. I liked what a previous poster wrote about being able to touch his coins. I have a son who has a marginal interest who mentioned that of some coins I bought him for a Christmas present that he liked the one he could hold in his hand better. Makes it easier on Dad's pocketbook for sure!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1442 Posts |
I am 36...and I have to completely disagree with the "doom and gloom" assessment... My inspiration comes from an interest in history, an interest in investing in physical assets (i.e. precious metals), and the thrill of a treasure hunt on the biggest flea market on earth ( ebay). Although my peers dont collect coins, they are too busy keeping up with Canada's insane housing market and their mortgage payments, I do have the luxury of a nice size disposable income budget to pursue coin collecting... Coins will keep increasing in value for several reasons...global inflation, limited and diminishing supply, increasing population... Some of you talk like there will be an extinction event of the boomer generation which will overwhelm and crush the market...but this isn't happening, nor will it happen. As old collectors die off slowly (and they dont die off all at once), their collections will trickle out bit by bit into the market and will be fully absorbed. I see this happen all the time, especially with dealers in the US. I bought a junk lot of silver a few months back from a US dealer, who was clearly liquidating an old collection, which contained a raw unlabeled 1906 25c small crown in F12...after having the coin properly slabbed by PCGS, I can tell you that that coin will not see the market again for at least another generation, and by then the demand may well be multi-fold. Sure we are in a bit of a "slump" compared to the crazy debt fueled 2006-2007 days but unless there is a historic deflation that will crush the values of all of our collections (and the central banks will never allow that to happen)...our collections will be just fine and so will the hobby :)....so cheer up, there is no doom on the horizon
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