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Yes This question comes up a lot. In my opinion. Can you ruin a coin by cleaning it. Yes Can you Improve a negative to a coin by cleaning it. Yes Should you clean a coin that does not need cleaning. No Do most people hurt a coin by cleaning it. Yes Here is a example of a coin that, to me, is ok to clean. Before  Most collectors will see the after picture and say "that coin has been cleaned" Without knowing what the before looked like. But given the opportunity to see the before, most will see the improvement. After   I wish I had a before picture of this quarter before I started on it. Did not take one, because I did not know how good it would come out. When I started, this coin was so black it was hard to tell it was a standing lib quarter.  Many people will tell you to never clean a coin. For them it is most likely better that they don't. For me, I sometimes see coins I think I can really help. So I like to give it a shot. Fixing some coins helps the hobby too. Edited by GR58
06/09/2015 4:57 pm
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I personally don't care if a coin has been cleaned as long as it wasn't cleaned with a bench grinder or something similar.
If you collect classic coins, odds are a decent percentage of coins you come across in the raw were cleaned at one time. It doesn't bother me as much as other people here. Nothing wrong with either opinion I think, I don't plan on reselling my coins so I'm not really concerned with its lack of appreciation.
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This is a very informative article from the OP from CoinWeek.
Not sure how the author is knowledgable about the use of acetone or Verdi-Care.
Maybe he should be invited to CCF?
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As I mentioned on another post yesterday, I also don't care what people do with their coins. If you want to clean them, go ahead, it's YOUR coin.
However.........what I do care about are the people who clean a coin then try to sell it at a higher grade/value. It's amazing how many EF-40's turn into (allegedly) UNC-60's with a little work. I never pay more than G to VG prices for any older silver coins; no matter what grade is listed on the 2x2 or slab. I am almost always out-bidded on online auctions, but I know that the same coin will be online again the next day, so I'll try again.
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I believe that as numismatists we have a responsibility to look after and preserve coins for generations to come. I feel that we are merely caretakers rather than owners of these little pieces of history. With that in mind I don't really subscribe to the school of thought that "hey if you own them you can do whatever you want with them". That said, I do think there are times that it's appropriate to clean a coin. However knowing when it's appropriate is very often misunderstood by the neophyte collector and this, I believe, is why there is such an abundance of incorrectly and poorly cleaned coins in existence today.
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06/09/2015 6:31 pm
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Sure it it is ok to clean coins if done properly. It is called conservation and should be done professionally. Over 97 per cent of coin collectors or dealers have NO clue how it should be handled in a proper fashion. Best bet if in doubt ........do not clean your coins.
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Like others have said, I think it is fine to clean coins- that is, depending on the circumstances.
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depends on the coin and depends on the cleaning. some coins can, and should be "saved" by a proper helping hand. it will never replace an untouched version of the same grade/quality. TOP ROW: 2 untouched coins. 1 is acceptable and 1 is not LOWER ROW: 2 "cleaned" coins. again 1 is acceptable and 1 is not  |
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The message that should be going out there should be a loud, clear and unambiguous "never clean coins". This is not, technically speaking, true, but it is true in by far the majority of circumstances that a new collector or non-collector is likely to encounter, and such people cleaning coins is by far the most common circumstance whereby an otherwise nice, valuable coin is ruined.
There are a limited set of circumstances whereby cleaning a coin is considered acceptable, or even "normal":
- Coins dug up out of the ground. They've got dirt - literal, physical dirt - stuck to them, which can be washed off. If they're not gold and have been in the ground for a while, it's likely that they're also corroded (see below). Ancient bronze coins are often kind of like fossils, in that the original surface of the coin has completely corroded away and all of the fine details originally on the coin are now only preserved in the corrosion layer (patina) which has kept the shape of the original coin; cleaning such coins requires as much care and patience as a palaeontologist with a fossil.
- Coins that are actively corroding. We're talking here about things like bronze disease, PVC goo and such. The coin is already damaged by the corrosion, but the only way to stop the coin getting worse and worse is to clean the corrosive agents off. Included in this category I would put uncirculated coins you know you've just accidentally touched, but which haven't developed visible fingerprints yet.
- Coins with paint, varnish, lacquer, glue, stickytape residue or similar "foreign matter" stuck to it. It's perfectly OK to use whatever solvent works best to remove the stuff - knowing that removing the stuff might not necessarily improve the look of the coin, if the stuff has been stuck there a while. Note that things like PVC goo qualify as both "active corrosion" and "foreign matter".
- War medals. It has long been recognised that there's no point in trying to stop an old soldier from polishing up their medals, so cleaning and polishing them have little or no effect on their value.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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And, since we're showing off our own personal "good cleaning" efforts, here's one I prepared earlier. In my list of exemptions, this one is clearly in category 1 (a ground find). Before: After: Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Wow. I took only a cursory glance at the "before" picture but I immediately registered it as a degraded copper coin.
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I'd only clean it if it were absolutly necessary, like if you found it metal detecting and can barely even tell what it is because of all the gunk.
But otherwise, you shouldn't. Especially on proof coins, like really, don't do it on proof coins.
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And, since we're showing off our own personal "good cleaning" efforts, here's one I prepared earlier. That's an amazing transformation! NICE JOB!  |
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