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Valued Member
United States
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Hello  This is another coin I had come across and I held onto it. Would this be a Machine Doubling or an error coin? I have other 1958's and they don't look like this one. Anyone have any idea about this coin?  I took pictures the best I could with my phone camera. I hope they're not to blury. The third image looks like he has two chins (to me anyway) Thank you        
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Sadie, looks like possible Die Deterioration Doubling to me but fyi, questions like this about a modern coin should be placed in the moderN errors & variety forum. The experts for this question hang out there primarily  Your 4th pic down looks like possible splitting but 
Edited by Cascade 07/01/2015 08:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
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nice penny!! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think the 4th pic is a picture while the camera was moving. I don't see any hub doubling.
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 United States
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 Thanks guys! I was on my old lap a little bit ago and wrote a message but lost it  so I'll try this again from this lap top. @ Cascade- Thank you for helping me with the forums. I've been messing up with where I post them. Hoping in time, I'll get to know the different forums better. When you mentioned about the splitting, what does that mean? @ aardspeed- Thank you. I love this coin. It may be one of no real value but I love the looks of this one. Over the years I've been picking out coins I've come across, just don't know a lot about them. I'm now addicted.  @SilverStacker- Yeah I don't take the best pictures. I can only hope they'll be clear enough to be able to make out what's there and what's not there. Maybe in time I'll invest in a better camera in hopes that it might help. Did any of you guys see on the third image a double chin? Or is that just me? Thanks again guys 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That loos like MD on the chin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is the doubling of the date of the 1958 Doubled Die Obverse. Image used with permission of Marilyn Van Allan. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Even far away this DOO-001 is stronger than your coin: 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow coop, that one is almost illegible
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you Coop
That's a beautiful 1958! No, mine isn't strong like that- that I can see anyway. With a 1958 is it possible to see the doubling with the naked eye? Cause when I looked at mine without the magnifying glass I couldn't see any doubling really. I saw a little, but it wasn't until I took a picture with the magnifying glass that I saw that. I'm a little confused is the 1958 real double die able to be seen with the naked eye?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I feel you would see it better with magnification, but if you had great eyesight, the 001 probably could be seen with the naked eye. (only two known examples from this die) Most often you find machine damage that looks like a doubled die, until you know what to look for. Note on this image. You can see where the device was reduced by machine damage during the strike.  The devices are not enlarged like you would expect from hub doubling. They die that struck this coin was normal, but die movement during the strike damaged these devices.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Wow that's interesting. I'm always for learning something new. A lot of times I feel so stupid repeatedly asking questions. I even thought maybe I' ll do a different name so you guys don't think "oh no here comes Sadie Angel again asking more questions lol, but I'm really grateful because like tonight I was trying the different ways to get a good picture and I was using this 1958 just trying to get a good picture of the date to compare with the ones you all posted and while I was doing that, iwas seeing more on the coin that I didn't see before. My curiosity is up and going. Without you guys I probably would never know. So I thank you for all the help you've not only helped me with but when I read other people's post I'm amazed with you guys and the help you help other people out with also. Thank you
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I try not to give yes and no answers. I try to explain what what I see on a coin. I figure that is the way I would like to learn. Images doe help as they show what I'm trying to say with a lot less words. Always remember the dumbest is question is the one that is never asked. When we assume we may come up with the incorrect answer. So best to get it right the first time.
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Thank you coop. Your a good teacher, and very much appreciated.
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