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Colligo ergo sum
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07/10/2015 7:30 pm
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Forum Dad
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I understand the seller(s) for these look a bit untrustworthy, but I am interested in what you see in the coins themselves that makes them suspect as well? I'd like to learn from these examples.
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Wow! Nice research. Let's see, 4 sellers with 0, that's right, zerofeedback....selling Morgans from China. No expert here on Morgans, but the double red hurricane flags are already flying.
Nice finds.
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The coins pictured look ok, nothing screams fake other than the country of origin. The winner of the auctions may not receive the exact coins pictured. Run away, there are plenty of Morgans out there from the lower 48 and even from our friends to the north.
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I am interested in what you see in the coins themselves that makes them suspect as well? With the better quality forgeries being produced in China nowadays, you may not be able to detect anything awry from ebay listing type images. In hand, the weight or thickiness will probably be off. Colligo ergo sum
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Thanks for the clarification. This is concerning for sure but I agree if you're buying from a seller like that in China things won't end well.
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What is an "ePacket delivery"?
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What is an "ePacket delivery"? Just a paper envelope in size similar to our 000 mailers. |
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Most of the coins in the photos look real, but I am not good at picking up counterfeits from photos. It appears to be the same seller with a different ebay user name as the background and photo quality is the same on many of the coins. |
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Here is something that is interesting. Seller dkibuk has a 1887 P listed with photos and there are bids. Seller cucpup5600 has the same photos of the 1887 P coin, but it is listed as a 1887 O, and the 1887 O has bids. Also the photos of the 1921 P are the same photos by both sellers kma4013 and dkibck. I guess there are not a lot of photos of US coins in China and the sellers have to use the same photos?!?! Edited by Slider23
07/10/2015 12:49 pm
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From the top link, looking at the third coin down (the 1896, which is actually an 1896-O)... I don't like the mint mark. And the metal looks too dark.
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07/10/2015 12:43 pm
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I looked at the 1887 O and it just doesn't look right to me. The details do not have the correct dimensions (thickness) and my guess is it's a counterfeit of a perfect coin that has been manually scarred to make it look more genuine.
As a rule of thumb, I would simply not buy uncertified coins from China (and I'd sure as heck even be skeptical of certified ones!) I hate to generalize, but with the proliferation of fakes the country has produced, there's no reason to buy coins from there. It's an unnecessary risk and bringing them here, they'll end up fooling somebody who doesn't know they were made in China and illegally imported here.
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I agree with Scropper point for point. If you blow up these photos you can easily catch the Photoshop work that has been inexpertly done. Pixels in round hazy patches, probably to hide manufacturing errors.
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The only one that really jumps out is the 1882 from NYTXA. Check out the bubbles behind the head.
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