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Help With A 1941 Cent Struck On A Foreign Stock.

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 Posted 07/20/2015  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlueSolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"e pluribus unum" is in line with the gap in whatever it was that the coin was pushed up against. See gymcoachdon's image above. It's all part of the red zone on my image.
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The undisturbed areas are from the vise that is incuse in those areas. The flattened areas are from the teeth on the vise. The EPU is between the teeth.
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Whatever happened to this coin, it was done outside the Mint.
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thanks , now we ( meaning all of you) have figured how it was made .
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thanks , now we ( meaning all of you) have figured how it was made .

Glad we could help (meaning all of us) As I said in the first post of this thread nobody knows how it was made except the person that made it.
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I'm curious about the diameter...
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pete226 ' sorry I just got back from work, the diameter is 18.75mm
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the diameter is 18.75mm


That surprises me! If it were smashed somehow would it not be larger than a normal cent (19.05 mm)? I guess if this were intentional, the edge could have been ground down some. How does the edge look?

Maybe this is an argument for a foreign planchet? Do I remember someone posting a link with specifications to many foreign coins including any minted in the US? I cannot find the link now - it may be on my other computer. I'll try to look for it later today. Seems like that would be a trail to explore....or maybe my thinking is all wrong!
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Pete , look at the original pics of the reverse. Looking at the rim near the E of E Pluribus you can see a slight roller coaster effect that does not show on the obverse. I think when the coin was squeezed between the vise jaw and the Mercury dime the expansion took place as a warping around the smaller coin and not a general expanding of the diameter
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the rim near the E of E Pluribus you can see a slight roller coaster effect


O K I do see that...and also at UN. Perhaps that is enough to account for the measured diameter.

Thanks for the insight!
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here I have some pictures of the rim. if we have accepted that it was the use of a grid on a vise wouldn't the grid image not be rise?

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The grips on a vice need to be quite stong. The larger diamonds are the raised area on the vice face thus the sunken areas on the coin. The smaller grooves cut into the vice face are where the face of the coin suvived. Just think of the vice face as a die
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stoneman227, you're right.
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Someone shared a spreadsheet on "Foreign Coins Produced in the US" I downloaded a copy. It may have been Ken Potter, but I cannot find the post. I have searched through it looking for a diameter of 18.75 mm and found nothing. The list is quite voluminous and a fantastic resource.

I am becoming more convinced of the vice squeeze explanation.
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