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New Rig - Maybe Foolish, But Fun Nonetheless

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 Posted 01/04/2008  12:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add maltuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know, I'm a moron, and I probably could have gotten the same results with my 2mp Digital Elph S110, and my wife has a Nikon D70. In my defense, I have spent a lot of time since I first posted here trying to improve my results with those two cameras. I think I did improve on what I had before, but I could never quite get as close as I wanted to. Even at "full size" the coins were, well, not that big. These were in fact limitations of the equipment, even if they don't really apply to the web (where you can't reasonably post a 3888x2592 size jpeg, haha).

Anyways, I have been jonesing more and more lately to take pictures of coins, and of other things too. So, after realizing this is something I'm really enjoying and spending a lot of time doing anyways, I just couldn't resist the allure of a newer SLR body. And it doesn't help that all my friends shoot Canon (5D, 1DmkII, etc.).

So I took money I should have spent on coins and spent it on a camera rig. I picked up a Canon 40D, a 100mm f/2.8 1:1 Macro, and an el-cheapo f/1.8 50mm prime, along with some cheap filters to protect the lenses and a bag. Of course, it's more like 160mm and 88mm given the crop factor of the sensor, but what the hey !

It was probably a huge waste of money, but wow; I have only spent an hour with this camera and I can really see myself getting addicted to this.

I can get 1:1 magnification! I feel like a kid in a candy store. My wife told me to just get some extender thingies for her lens to make it into a macro to get the same result, but I'm stubborn. Plus, I hate having to wait to use her camera when she's using it! The other day she spent hours just taking pictures of flowers for goodness sake, when there were much more beautiful coins waiting to be photo'd !

So anyways, now we can both be taking photos and our marriage can again be tranquil! Hahaha.

Seriously though, I've read other posts here, and also reviews elsewhere, and I had to decide between the 40D and the Rebel (XT, XTi). Big price difference ($600?).

If it were only for shooting coins, I'd have gone with the Rebel. But, the features that made me drop the extra cash are:

-6fps instead of 3fps - faster action shooting
-Reports of better high ISO quality
-3 "profiles" where each profile remembers "all" settings, making switching between coins and action pretty easy
-"Live" capability

The first two are a bigger deal for sports type photography I want to do. I took my point and shoot to events in the past and took pictures and they always sucked - impossible to get any action without blur out of that camera. And forget taking a lot of shots quickly. My wife's Nikon D70 is about like the Rebel in terms of consecutive shooting speed, but it's lowest lense is f/4 and it's just TOO light restrictive for indoor sports, especially when shooting 800 or 1600 iso on her camera is horribly grainy. So, in theory, I may be getting slightly better indoor sports performance with better high ISO quality and the ability to shoot 6 shots per second (for a few seconds).

As for the other two features, they are probably just glamour and who knows how much I'll really use them. The live feature seems promising though, because already my neck is sore from setting up hundreds of shots through the viewfinder on a tripod to do macro work. The idea of being able to connect the camera (on the tripod) via usb to my PC and see what the sensor sees, and fire off the shutter from the keyboard is . . . nice. But I haven't actually done that yet, so the feature may not do what I hope, or be as nice as I wish. We'll see. I'll write back again when I have a chance, since it's gotten late tonight.

Now, back to trying to get larger-than-sensor size images of a Mercury dime before bed... hahahahaha!
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 Posted 01/04/2008  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a great rig! I've taken some very nice shots of silver Half Dimes, for example, with a similar set-up (Nikon D80 and 105mm macro lens, mounted on a tripod) using only the onboard flash and some white paper to diffuse and bounce the light a bit.

Best wishes.
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Sweet set-up! Now we need to see some pics!
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 Posted 01/04/2008  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maltuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, there are already some here, though they don't look that good. I'm still a budding new photographer.

But you will all have long been sick of me by the time I've figured out anything worth getting excited about, hehehe.

Still, I'm thankful to have found a nice place to talk about coin photography and get advice and such. Everyone here has been incredibly helpful.

As for my learning, well, I took a few hundred pics last night of things all around the house (my wife, our dog, flowers, screws in doors, etc.). I plan on making another attempt at coin photos soon. I want to also mess around with the live mode (seeing the image at high resolution on the computer screen *before* you actually take the shot, as well as taking the shot with a mouse click - kind of like a remote shutter release). And also on the list is learning white balance a bit better than I'm doing now, as well as starting to play around with f-stop and exposure settings.

But now, I'm thinking about using the flash with paper for diffusion, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :)
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 Posted 01/04/2008  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Google "coin photography" and you will find a number of helpful sites.

As I said earlier, I used white paper to bounce the light around some and lessen shadows without loosing "depth" and detail in the coin.

I was using a tripod, so the coin was at the base of the tripod on white paper. The camera was facing downward, with the flash ready to fire. I angled a piece of white cardboard below the flash and toward the coin at 45 degrees (approximately). I had a second piece of white cardboard at right angles to the coin but on the opposite side.

This is a time where a picture would easily be worth a thousand words. LOL. I'll try to get one tomorrow to better show the simple set-up.
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