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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Something smells fishy. Also, it has a real bad rim nick. I think this is an inside job.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks ok to me....so what am I missing? Rim nick isn't bad enough for a details grade.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think this is an inside job.  Wow you throw that accusation out there with zero proof that is recklessly damaging to an honest ebay seller's reputation. I don't know this ebay seller and haven't purchased from him/her but the individual appears to be a decent seller. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm more curious as to the surfaces. It looks rough and I can barely read some of the lettering. Is this a die issue?
I'm not buying or bidding on the coin, but would love to know if this is a "legit" AU-55 or overgraded.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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United States
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I'm with paralyse - the letters in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA look awfully weak, and the first A in America is practically gone. Grease Fill, maybe? Would that justify a details grade?  |
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United States
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Quote: Wow you throw that accusation out there with zero proof that is recklessly damaging to an honest ebay seller's reputation. I was not trying to accuse the eBayer of anything. I was saying that maybe the submitter knows someone on the inside of PCGS. This kind of thing happens. I Sorry for the confusion. I don't see any luster on the coin and it looks like it may have been cleaned. The coin may just look weird in the lighting? Edited by SilverStackerKid
07/29/2015 01:09 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I don't know but, it looks o.k. to me.
As far as the letters go probably greased filled.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Not a very good example for the grade for sure. There is even some verdigris on the reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What's wrong with it? Let's see:
- Very fine porosity covering most of the coin.
- Rim nick on the obverse
- verdigris on the reverse
- very poor stike making the devices on the obverse and reverse
Could potentially be a cast counterfeit, but Idon't think it is and PCGS aparrently thought it wasn't as well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think this deserves a details grade.
That rim nick stands out to me.
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 United States
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What you're missing is virtually no wear on the breast and wingtips. Regardless of anything else, this coin circulated very little. With that as a given, you then have to start thinking why the rest of the coin looks the way it does, because circulation didn't do it.
To my mind, getting a pass on that rim ding might have been a bit much for PCGS.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This is helping me learn what to look for when looking at slabbed coins as far as if it's okay or if it's an overgrade/misgrade. Thank you for the information so far!
It can be hard to figure out at times what exactly will force a coin to go Details grade and what issues are "acceptable".
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks SsuperDdave - Just two days ago I started trying to be a bit educated on grading. This coin is a perfect example of what the PCGS guy said about understanding wear vs. poor strike.
PCGS has three good 45 minute long previews to their grading classes on youtube. Just google:
youtube PCGS Webinar - Coin Grading
There are three vids I saw 101, 102, and 103. Even though they are only previews, it opened my eyes to things I did not know since I have never really studied grading beyond the antiquated system I grew up with in the 70s.
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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United States
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Gotta admit it's borderline, but I think the clean grade is okay.
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Posted 07/28/2015 10:57 pm
