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Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 08/13/2015 2:09 pm This is strange. Coin appears to me to be an obvious forgery, and is admittedly to be shipped from China. See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peru-Spanis...ht_500wt_916 But looking at the ostensibly Dutch seller's inventory, some are from China and others are supposedly coming from the Netherlands. See: http://www.ebay.com/sch/nlmunten/m....047675.l2562 This reference may be a bit obscure for you younger folks, but what's real and what's Memorex here? It's almost like the account has been "piggybacked" rather than hijacked. Your thoughts? Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff

swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 08/13/2015 3:32 pm It certainly seems odd and there also appear to be well known forgeries mixed with coins I have not seen as numismatic forgeries before. Not all the forgeries come from China. I have no idea at this point what is happening here. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/13/2015 5:06 pm From China via the Netherlands. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 08/13/2015 7:47 pm I despise that coin Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 08/14/2015 07:50 am It sounds like consignment shipping. That is when you take orders for goods that you don't physically have and the manufacturer/wholesaler ships on your behalf and under your name. I'm willing to bett hat most of his stock has the same origin. Look at the images of his other coins. All have the same black background which can be seen on some pictures to have been "shopped" in. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 08/16/2015 03:20 am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Indonesians Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 08/18/2015 8:39 pm This is what you call a proxy seller. Who knows, you might have a student from China that moved to Netherlands for studies and sells counterfeits on the side. You cannot just base on location to judge numismatics. Some high quality counterfeits are coming from Belarus and Poland. In fact, there is a website that boasts selling replicas and supposedly even pays taxes to the government! My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 08/18/2015 9:45 pm gxseries I agree that eastern Europe has several centers of forgery - it is not the Chinese alone that are making the fakes flooding ebay. However, for sheer numbers involved, the coins made in China seem to have reached several levels into the numismatic community and have become rather pervasive. Addresses used on ebay are notoriously inaccurate. When I worked for ebay one scam was uncovered where a group (they were Chinese) that got hold of bank account numbers names and addresses. They used this data to set up fake ebay and PayPal accounts. The people targeted were often elderly and since no money was visible on their bank statements - they had no idea that their identities were being used. We went as far as to have the RCMP investigate a location that was funneling money to China and the address turned out to be an elderly couple that did not even have a computer. Report this Post to the Staff
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