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My Liberty Cap Large Cent Gear/Pie Crimper?

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Where in the world did you come across this sweet baker lady vermont? Did the seller know anything about it?


ebay, few years back.
Negative. His description was "reeded edge large penny. Unique?".
Or something like that. He wasn't a coin guy



Any activity on EAC westcoin?
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Just saw you're okay with me posting it over there - so doing so now, I'm sure it will get some feedback over the weekend. I'll report back on it soon.
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So far consensus is a replacement gear, most likely from a clock. Mark Borckardt (head cataloger at Heritage and ex-Bowers-Merena) agrees with me on this. I posted the link to this thread so maybe we will get a few new subscribers from EAC members to join up with our little family here. As to Sheldon #? There have been some guesses, I will post more on that after more EAC people have looked at the photos over the weekend.
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Clock gear huh? Cool!

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Please. Like most of us on first seeing these, I assumed these were makeshift gears. jerseyben said it here first, but it's laughable that these irregular "teeth" would mesh with any other gear, whether in a pulley or a windowsash, but to suggest a clock? Ridiculous!
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I also agree it would be a tough fit for a clock or anything that needs precision gearing, brass would be a better and easier to cut substitute than copper. Most of the pie crimpers I've seen had much longer teeth cut out, hence why I thought gear of some sort.

As to date 1794? Sheldon 70 has been mentioned, can you see a die crack on obverse between the TY on LIBERTY running from rim to forehead Dave?

http://www.largecents.net/collectio...pics/s70.jpg
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Laughable?
Absolutely p..I do agree.

I came across this 1795..second from top, now that's a gear for sure.

Mine..a crude crimper I presume.

http://www.early-copper.com/gear.html
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Thanks for that link on Gary Hahn, I'd never seen his page before, some really neat large cent stuff there! Pie Crimper? Crude Gear? Who can really say for sure,

But one thing is, your coin sure has a story to tell, it's fun to speculate, and bottom line it's just cool!
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1794 S52 A wild guess. Thick planchet is clearly seen. Love that edge work--and the old story behind it
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S70 ? Nope word Liberty is high above head
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I thought about S-52.

One thing is for certain. It was attached to something with that hole being there.
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I emailed Gary Hahn over at early-coppers.com with pictures of my coin.
He has an extensive collection of "gear" Large Cents.
His response:

Yes I do believe yours was used as a gear as well. I have several 1820 and 1830's with similar teeth.


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My other collecting obsession is clocks. I can guarantee that this was never used as a gear.

BTW, that 2nd coin in the link actually isn't a gear, but was used on a clock, probably an impromptu repair. It's a winding ratchet. On the main wheel, there's a spring loaded pawl that falls into those notches as you wind it.

None of the others were used as gears. 100% sure on that.




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None of the others were used as gears. 100% sure on that.



Your expertise on clocks or your expertise on gears in general..and their various uses?
I don't have experience in gears for various applications..do you?
That's what I'm trying to establish. Then, what are these and why were they made in your opinion?
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