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Hello, I recently purchased this 1875-CC Twenty Cent Piece. At about 5 O'Clock on the obverse of the coin (to the right of the date), half a dozen or so denticles are completely missing. It does not look like a grease error because the area where the denticles should be is not flat but incuse as if they were "scooped" out of the coin. I cannot see any tooling marks or anything else unusual about the coin. I am going to send off to NGC but don't know if I should attribute an error or if I should expect it to come back details from damage. Wanting to get opinions, Thanks!     |
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Half of the eagle's wing is there and the other part is completely wiped  |
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Edited by MeadowviewCollector
08/16/2015 9:11 pm
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First things first............where did you find such a pretty 20 cent piece?
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Thanks for the link to the lamination error page. I am curious to see what they have to say. I manage a coin shop and this piece, with three others came in the store recently. The one wing is lacking all it's detail due to a very weak strike which is pretty common with this date.
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Looks like the obverse die had broken and during coin striking the metal filled the void caused by the die brake and this resulted in the wing be devoid of detail on the reverse. This is a similar result to a Cud strike only I don't know what to call it when the Cud doesn't go to the rim. nlp |
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It looks like it could be a strike-through error. I've got an 1875-P double dime with a similar depression on the reverse, with the coin struck through a small piece of wire, or something like that. It's pictured in our book (and the free online version at doubledimes.com). Under the Errors chapter, there's a section on Strike-through errors, and my 1875 is pictured there.
The weakness in the Eagle's wing is typical of the BF-2 die marriage. This is the die marriage that represents almost 3/4 of all known 1875-CCs, and they always come with weakness there, some more than others. The first two die marriages, BF-1 and the recently-discovered BF-5 are always well struck (probably too much so, which buckled the reverse die causing the need for quick replacement). Striking pressure seems to have been lessened significantly after the two reverse die failures, and the plentiful BF-2 was the beneficiary of the weaker strikes.
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I'm glad that you joined the CCF doubledimes. I thought you would be able to shed some light on this error for the original poster.
-MV
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Welcome to the CCF, Doubledimes!
Years ago, a knowledgeable collector told me that wood chips were sometimes used to scrub the dies and lift grease. This coin brings that to mind. Might have a splinter clogged the die?
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 sounds like a plausible possibility to me. Wood chip could easily get stuck to the die grease or machine grease the mint used and fall onto the die during striking. That is sure is a pretty double dime you have there, lots of eye appeal in the patina. By the way  ! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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That has got to be one of the prettiest 20 cent pieces I've ever laid eyes on. Error or not, a keeper for sure! I wouldn't think twice about asking for research attribution.  |
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Hi, just got the coin back from NGC. It graded a MS62! NGC said it was an error but it was to minor to be mentioned on the label. *** Edited by Staff - Please review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. *** Thanks for all your help! |
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picc you'll have to get your post count up first before you can offer it for sale here. Congrats on the grading result. I only wish I had the resources to be able to afford such a beautiful coin.
-MV
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That came back original color. Good going! It has that splochy look of of a past dip to remove color
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Oih82w8 will want this one ....  Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Posted 08/16/2015 9:01 pm
