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A small break, but it does seem to affect the rim.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks like a chip/crack to me.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I'm going with PMD. Looks like metal from the rim pushed over the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I dont think its PMD, it looks like there is a die crack running north of the area in question
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Valued Member
Canada
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That was my first thought but the more I look it looks like a scratch.fallow through from what did the rim damage. Is it raised sheltie?
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United States
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Valued Member
 United States
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It is a die crack with a chip. I just wondered if it would be considered a Cud due to the break affecting the rim. maybe this pic will help. I can try to get one of the rim, I have tried and failed before, lol I struggle with the photos. 
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Valued Member
Canada
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I think if it's on the rim its a Cud.
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Valued Member
 United States
134 Posts |
It appears to me that it does affect the rim, however it is hard to tell for sure with the magnification I have available. Maybe the worlds smallest Cud?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks more like a die chip issue.
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Pillar of the Community
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Not a cud- I dont think this counts LOL. Looks like a nice sized die chip as well as some cracks ta boot! Not a bad find 
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Valued Member
 United States
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Quote: Looks more like a die chip issue. From cuds-on coins Definition: A Cud is a die break that involves the rim and at least a little bit of the adjacent field or design. Is a die chip not a break in the die coop? I have asked in previous posts how to differentiate between a die break and a die chip and still I do not know. Is the difference in the size of the affected area? I keep running into the terms "interior die break" and "die chip" on the forum. Some seem to use the terms loosely as if they are one in the same. I believe they are different, just not sure how to differentiate between the two.
Edited by SheltieGuy1966 08/23/2015 10:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it's a crack leading to a break, and since it's on the rim, by definition it's a Cud.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know that I am going to get some feedback on this statement, but here goes. Technically the anomaly being discussed here is a Cud, though very small, it is still a Cud. Why? It is a die break or in other words, a piece of die the is missing. This is the first qualification for a Cud. Second qualifier; the missing piece involves the rim and a small area of the interior of the die. With those two conditions being met, it is then a Cud and one that I would list on cuds-on-coins.com Please contact me if you are willing to share this information bu allowing me to put it on site. BJ Neff
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Pillar of the Community
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"IF" (and this is a big IF in that the images do not definitively but strongly suggest) this goes all the way to the rim, it is a Major Die Break or what we all call a Cud. I'd personally have to see better images of the rim or the coin to be 100% sure.
Edited by koinpro 08/24/2015 12:16 pm
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Quote:Why? It is a die break or in other words, a piece of die the is missing. This is the first qualification for a Cud. Second qualifier; the missing piece involves the rim and a small area of the interior of the die. Just defining a Cud, doesn't make this a Cud. I honestly don't see how anyone can say anything definitively with the pictures provided. Just looks like PMD to me, the rim pushed in and down.
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