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Hello everyone I recently purchased this 1913 type 1 Buffalo nickel graded by NNC , now I know all about NNC reputation yet still decided to buy the coin .. Before I placed by bid I did a quick search to see what these are selling for in several different grades and then bid accordingly ... I felt like I got the coin pretty cheap and ive just been wondering about how it grades in reality vs nnc high ms65 .. I do believe the coin to be in uncirculated condition but I'm just not much on grading this type of coin and it does appear to be weakly struck on the buffalos head as many 1913 are.. So what do you guys think this coin would grade ? Sorry about the quality of these photos , best I can do with a cell phone camera ..    *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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I agree that the coin is "unc" and would real world grade in the 63'ish range on a good day.
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best I can do with a cell phone camera These shots look pretty good. For cell phone camera shots, I find zooming all the way in (max zoom) and then moving the camera physically away from the coin to capture the whole coin often gives me better cell phone camera shots. But I have to hold really still taking the shot {grin} Edited by Garoyn
09/03/2015 08:00 am
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I also own one centsles coin, my lame claim to fame  .....but I digress. You picked a more challenging NNC coin than I. Buffaloes are tough for me, so all I can say with any confidence is that it's between AU58 and MS65, which is what the previous posters seem to agree with. Edited by edweather
09/03/2015 10:37 am
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It's probably "close" (within two grades) but in an NNC slab the larger fear is surface originity. We've seen Details crackout in "righteous" NNC slabs.
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The only NNC coin I have is a proof Malawi piece I picked up for my OFEC collection ... it's labelled PR70, but is definitely not a 70. The photos of this look good, but I'd be nervous it was messed with some way.
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Thanks for posting guys!! I can understand your concerns as I purchased a Barber dime graded ms64 that was also in a NNC slab, I was horrified when I received the dime it was covered in hairlines and maybe AU 55 at best .. That was my first experience with a NNC coin and it took me quite a while to take a chance with another. As a lot of you guys mentioned I was also thinking it was 63ish , I've looked the coin over several times with a 10x loup and I'm not seeing anything that's really obvious but as I stated before buffalos aren't my specialty .. The surface has a good amount of luster and I'm not seeing any hairlines but considering nickels are made from a harder alloy would hairlines be as evident ? @ Garyon Thanks , just as you mentioned that's about how I go about getting a decent photo , I would say my biggest problem is getting the true color of the coins .. I also find it tough to hold still as I will take half a dozen out of focus photos for every one good one .. Not to mention I usually have my 2 year old daughter hanging off my leg during this process .. Lol |
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Not all NNC coins are bad, just 99.9% of them. Looks you're the lucky 0.1% :) Nice buff!
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Looks like there might be some damage over RIB in PLURIBUS. LIBERTY on the obverse looks unusually weak for an uncirculated coin. Uniform golden color may be OK, or it may be the result of retoning after an old cleaning. There may be slight wear over the buffalo's head, tail, and front leg, or the strike may be on the soft side. Another potential problem with NNC coins is the edge. The foam insert completely covers the edge and NNC has no problem putting a righteous grade on a coin with edge damage. Case in point: this 1844-D quarter eagle, graded XF-45 by NNC. PCGS agreed on XF but obviously flagged the edge issue (mount removed). You can't trust NNC.  |
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I Also noticed those areas you mentioned , I believe those to be the result of being weakly struck
As these areas have good luster present .. Never the less I payed about 22 bucks for this coin including shipping .. With that said I think I got a really great deal !!
Any advise on what to look for on a buff to help verify the surface being original ?
I've looked it over many times And don't see anything you would on a silver coin that had been messed with ...
Thanks aged in guys.
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I have an NNC graded F-15. It's an 18th century Mo Mint Reale. I like my coin but feel the grade (low as it is) is still a tad high. More likely a G-10 or F-12 but I digress. Buy the coin, not the slab. Pretty sweet Type-1. Hopefully you got a bargain due to the TPG's rep. If that's the case, solid score!  |
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Imo surfaces look original, nice pick.
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