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1889 CC Morgan & 1893 CC You Vs PCGS (Grades Posted)

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Both coins are problem free, and have a steel gray color with some gold toning.

Below is the 1889 CC:
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1889-CC-Morgan-&-1893-CC-You-Vs-PCGS-Grades-Posted

Below is the 1993 CC:



1889-CC-Morgan-&-1893-CC-You-Vs-PCGS-Grades-Posted

1889-CC-Morgan-&-1893-CC-You-Vs-PCGS-Grades-Posted



Interesting that no one graded the 1893 CC higher than the 1889 CC, and I am not sure what that means. Is the 93 overgraded or the 89 undergraded?

I picked up the 89CC last week in a Great Collection auction and I paid a $100 more than I wanted to pay. The 89 had been in the GUPTA Collection, so maybe it was getting a little more action. I had been out bid on 3 or 4 89CC in the past, so I got aggressive on a coin that I wanted.

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1) VF-35

2) VF-30
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The surfaces look great, they both look XF to me.
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I'd say they're both in the VF35ish range. Very nice examples!
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Nice clean examples. I'll go with VF-25 on both.
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I will add a bit of information. PCGS has these coins two grades apart and one of the coins has a CAC sticker. When I look at the coins in hand, they look very close to the same grade.
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They do look very close to the same grade.
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I say VF30-35 range for both.
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VF35 89 and VF25 93, and the 93 probably got the green bean, the 89 has some distractions.
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VF-30 on both.
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Wow. I gotta recalibrate my head somewhat. When we look at coins like these - especially the '89 - with so much consistent dark crud lodged in the nooks and crannies, yet otherwise "clean" surfaces, we immediately assume it's been cleaned rather harshly. Had someone else mentioned the possibility with these, I would have immediately agreed.

In my opinion, the '89 would Bean at VF20 and the '93 at F15. I have them at those grades, but I'd be OK with one grade higher for each. I don't expect the major lines in the wings to be disappearing at VF30 or above, nor that little hair detail even at 25.

/curmudgeon
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XF40 and VF35.
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VF-35
VF-30
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40 and 35
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VF-35 on both
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I am happy for your grades but they would appear somewhat overgraded
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